Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-02-2012 | 06:04 AM
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03-02-2012 | 06:11 AM
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-The net result is less pay AND as a bonus, a crappier QOL over the course of a career to keep this same system because if you want to maximize your retirement, you have to either a)fly more, or b) bid an airplane where you have no seniority.. Hobson's choice. they both suck, and it is so unnecessary.
03-02-2012 | 06:15 AM
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It's simply a fact. Nothing to do with right, wrong or personal complexes. Just a reiteration that we already have pay banding at Delta.
Carl
03-02-2012 | 06:20 AM
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03-02-2012 | 06:25 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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03-02-2012 | 06:29 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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And no georgetown coed law students jesse!
03-02-2012 | 06:31 AM
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. I almost PUKED. That is one "RATHER" style photo. I, second, Jesse or Super to inject some medicine to offset this NASTY picture. PUKE
03-02-2012 | 06:35 AM
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Since you haven't been reading the whole topic, you're ill-informed. The topic is pay banding. Iceman reminded us all that we already have pay banding at Delta. I responded with my post above.
It's simply a fact. Nothing to do with right, wrong or personal complexes. Just a reiteration that we already have pay banding at Delta.
Carl
It's simply a fact. Nothing to do with right, wrong or personal complexes. Just a reiteration that we already have pay banding at Delta.
Carl
03-02-2012 | 06:41 AM
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Not necessarily. It's just the way ALPA contracts have been written since prior to the jet age.
The theory goes back to the introduction of jets. Jets not only vastly increased capacity, but vastly increased speed. Both were huge increases in productivity per hour of piloting. ALPA fought hard for pay increases based on this productivity. Management fought it extremely hard. Management wanted pilots to be paid the same.
It was what ALPA fought hard for. It had nothing to do with ol Carl. Unions get insulted constantly for being afraid of more productivity. It's a slur. ALPA fought hard back in the day, and won the right to be paid via productivity. To me, it has always made economic sense to pay per productivity. For me personally, I would prefer to fly day trips on the 757. That would be my idea of the ideal gig. I don't do that because it's not the best financial decision for me. If we move away from pay based on productivity, we play into the hands of those who wish to taint us with the brush of being afraid to be productive.
It has NOTHING to do with my job being any harder than anyone elses.
It could be argued that way, and could be argued another way. Truth is, both jobs have significant risks and skill requirements. That's a given. The only question is whether you pay pilots based on the amount of revenue they produce based on the aircraft they fly.
I can only give you my opinions and the historical background of how we got here.
Carl
The theory goes back to the introduction of jets. Jets not only vastly increased capacity, but vastly increased speed. Both were huge increases in productivity per hour of piloting. ALPA fought hard for pay increases based on this productivity. Management fought it extremely hard. Management wanted pilots to be paid the same.
It has NOTHING to do with my job being any harder than anyone elses.
I can only give you my opinions and the historical background of how we got here.
Carl
03-02-2012 | 06:46 AM
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