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03-07-2012 | 06:39 PM
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Are you really dense enough to think that a mod gets a kickback from any ads on this site? People logged in at the same time don't even see the same ads- it's generated by some sort of software that displays ads depending on your location and such. The guy you're accusing of plugging doesn't even see ads because he uses a blocker!
Truly amazing.
Truly amazing.
80, who uses an add blocker?
Never knew this site had ads........ What are they advertising? 
03-07-2012 | 06:43 PM
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If you disagree, please post the policy manual section that prohibits DALPA from signing off on it prior to Section 6.
Carl
03-07-2012 | 06:45 PM
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Sailing's assertion that this would be done via MEMRAT is dead on. There is no way that they would just vote amongst themselves and send up white smoke for the peasants to see.
Also, a modification, or extension by all accounts is considered "significant" in nature and therefore must be voted on via MEMRAT.
I have no fear that they would send the to the membership. It means that if we vote for something that many would deem substandard, it is on our backs.
The JPWA modified the current agreement at the time (LOA 51), and LOA 19 (DALPA's JPWA version) was done via memrat.
A policy manual change that involved any change to pay scope or work rules would further solidify it.
Also, a modification, or extension by all accounts is considered "significant" in nature and therefore must be voted on via MEMRAT.
I have no fear that they would send the to the membership. It means that if we vote for something that many would deem substandard, it is on our backs.
The JPWA modified the current agreement at the time (LOA 51), and LOA 19 (DALPA's JPWA version) was done via memrat.
A policy manual change that involved any change to pay scope or work rules would further solidify it.
Edit: Then I see Carl's post above... Pass more butter please
03-07-2012 | 06:50 PM
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03-07-2012 | 06:54 PM
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03-07-2012 | 06:56 PM
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03-07-2012 | 07:00 PM
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How old are you... really? Comments like this one lead one to think you aren't really a pilot, much less one that supposedly works for Delta..
03-07-2012 | 07:02 PM
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Yep. You hit the nail on the head, brotha.
It's absolute insanity. We're gifting ALPA our hard-earned money, which they use to:
1) (first and foremost) pay themselves outrageous salaries, benefits, and perks;
2) advocate for and fund outsourced pilot groups who would happily take Delta pilots' jobs; and
3) bankroll a bloated, corrupt, and obsolete bureaucracy that gives not a whit for Delta pilots' careers.
Funny thing is, not even the most strident ALPA supporter can legitimately disagree. they'll try to tell me how valuable the "laywers" and "medical" are...but we can subcontract those ourselves at a fraction of the cost.
It's enough to drive anyone batty. We've got to put an end to this madness.
It's absolute insanity. We're gifting ALPA our hard-earned money, which they use to:
1) (first and foremost) pay themselves outrageous salaries, benefits, and perks;
2) advocate for and fund outsourced pilot groups who would happily take Delta pilots' jobs; and
3) bankroll a bloated, corrupt, and obsolete bureaucracy that gives not a whit for Delta pilots' careers.
Funny thing is, not even the most strident ALPA supporter can legitimately disagree. they'll try to tell me how valuable the "laywers" and "medical" are...but we can subcontract those ourselves at a fraction of the cost.
It's enough to drive anyone batty. We've got to put an end to this madness.
.....Age 65 against the will of the majority of pilots they represent
......9 hours of flight time to increase safety?!
.......nare a peep on scope recapture.
...... and so on and so forth.
Out of touch is putting it mildly.
03-07-2012 | 07:07 PM
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I know you weren't here for the DAL pension termination, but it doesn't work that way. AMR will have to prove to the bankruptcy court and PBGC that "but for" the pilot pension they will be unable to reorganize. That's a pretty high standard. There is no provision to voluntarily terminate a pension that's underfunded. APA could remove it from their contract, but pre-filing benefits earned would still be protected by ERISA.
03-07-2012 | 07:08 PM
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This is a totally BS thing to say but I've seen in do wonders for this "ALPA doesn't listen and is out to get me" rhetoric (and it is rhetoric):
Never once have I seen someone on here say "I lost that LEC XX CA/FO rep election by just three votes. Darn it"
So here's the deal. If you don't like the raw buckets, or the way your policy manual is written, or the way the opener is going to look, then recall your rep and let's get the show on the road. If ALPA had a mutiny on their hands right before section 6 though, then remember how the company "may" perceive that. I.e the word "may" would be all over your contract.
Now I'm not saying put up and shut up but I'm saying I hope anyone that complains about ALPA has emailed their rep their thoughts, then demanded an explanation when they did the opposite. ALPA is just like any political game. If there is fame and fortune involved, then my constituency be damned.
But the last person you'll see supporting the "process" around here is me. It's because I know how the cards are stacked in the deck and who is doing the stacking. That and what it looks like when the house of cards collapses.
With that said. Raw bucket 1 should end at 60.
Never once have I seen someone on here say "I lost that LEC XX CA/FO rep election by just three votes. Darn it"
So here's the deal. If you don't like the raw buckets, or the way your policy manual is written, or the way the opener is going to look, then recall your rep and let's get the show on the road. If ALPA had a mutiny on their hands right before section 6 though, then remember how the company "may" perceive that. I.e the word "may" would be all over your contract.
Now I'm not saying put up and shut up but I'm saying I hope anyone that complains about ALPA has emailed their rep their thoughts, then demanded an explanation when they did the opposite. ALPA is just like any political game. If there is fame and fortune involved, then my constituency be damned.
But the last person you'll see supporting the "process" around here is me. It's because I know how the cards are stacked in the deck and who is doing the stacking. That and what it looks like when the house of cards collapses.
With that said. Raw bucket 1 should end at 60.
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