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Old 03-07-2012 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
"Tower, this is Southwest 123... is the inboard available?"
Negative, the pattern is full.

Oh, OK. How bout now?

No.

OK, cool. Cool. So y'all enjoy that pizza?

It was alright.

And the flat screens?

Watching them right now.

Cool, cool. So that inboard available yet?

No, still full. You'd have to be a quarter mile intrail of a foreign A380.

That's fine. we'll take it.

I wasn't offering, that was a joke.

Oh. So we're cleared for the option then, or.......?

No. Winds two seven zero at 30 gusting to 45, cleared to land runway two eight.

We can take 8 Right if it'll help y'all out.

Srsly? Did you not just hear, whatever, nevermind.

We'd like to put 26 Left on request.

Denied.

Tower I have Ray Lahood's number, advise ready to copy.

Unable. Cleared to land two eight.

Man this place is worse than Philly. At least we're making whale pay.
Old 03-07-2012 | 09:09 PM
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Gloopy is on to how we wear them down. It boils down to "how can I get these guys off my frequency the quickest?" Works for dating too, by the way. ATL will come around.
Old 03-07-2012 | 09:41 PM
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Quick reserve question....does the contract have a maximum number of days you can PD a month? In other words, can you PD an entire month of reserve if the numbers are "in the blue"....
Old 03-07-2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
.....pushing to reduce the required flight time for 121 pilots

.....Age 65 against the will of the majority of pilots they represent

......9 hours of flight time to increase safety?!

.......nare a peep on scope recapture.

...... and so on and so forth.



Out of touch is putting it mildly.

Awwww, " just bend over and take it like a man", and remember, you are not gay if you don't back up!
Old 03-08-2012 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
All I got was "look at our route map...its all Alaska on the west coast...suck it DL pilots!!!!"

Oh and apparently we have to wear our hats on the walk arounds now. Crap.

Still better than those fake formation flying Enya ones from the 90's though.

Bring back the Pig in the Hot Tub!
Old 03-08-2012 | 02:58 AM
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You guys are onto something here. This much bacon can't be good for our health.
Old 03-08-2012 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
None of this was Bacon's question. He wanted to know if DALPA could do it. And I've said they absolutely could if it's prior to Section 6, and after Section 6 if they decide to amend the policy manual.

If you disagree, please post the policy manual section that prohibits DALPA from signing off on it prior to Section 6.

Carl
Yes Carl they can. They can send anything outside of Section 6 to a vote or not. They via the policy manual can do what you state. If it is significant they are to send it to memrat, but you have a point. LOA 29 was huge and they did not even vote whether or not they wanted it to send it to MEMRAT. They discussed it briefly but never voted on it, and all of the these scheduling changes that we are now seeing, which were apparently from pilot input were TAed and ratified by only the reps. Same could happen here with a modification or extension.

I put forth a resolution last year that failed at the LEC level that worked to change this. Another pilot wrote another resolution at the next meeting and that one failed at the LEC level.

My point of the last posts on this subject was, they will not leave this on their shoulders. If they do, and it is anything short of full restoration, they will be overcome by events. I think they are aware of it.

In the end you are right and Bacon is right. They can. Sailing is correct that they will not. It would be downright stupid to do so, and I would not be surprised to see a few reps resign if they did.
Old 03-08-2012 | 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Bad info.

I know you weren't here for the DAL pension termination, but it doesn't work that way. AMR will have to prove to the bankruptcy court and PBGC that "but for" the pilot pension they will be unable to reorganize. That's a pretty high standard. There is no provision to voluntarily terminate a pension that's underfunded. APA could remove it from their contract, but pre-filing benefits earned would still be protected by ERISA.

Sorry, bad word usage. Terminate give the idea that it would be totally gone and thanks for the correction. Point was the pilots and the company can agree to restructure the terms of the fund.

I agree with what you state for the PBGC to take all or part of it.
Old 03-08-2012 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Negative, the pattern is full.

Oh, OK. How bout now?

No.

OK, cool. Cool. So y'all enjoy that pizza?

It was alright.

And the flat screens?

Watching them right now.

Cool, cool. So that inboard available yet?

No, still full. You'd have to be a quarter mile intrail of a foreign A380.

That's fine. we'll take it.

I wasn't offering, that was a joke.

Oh. So we're cleared for the option then, or.......?

No. Winds two seven zero at 30 gusting to 45, cleared to land runway two eight.

We can take 8 Right if it'll help y'all out.

Srsly? Did you not just hear, whatever, nevermind.

We'd like to put 26 Left on request.

Denied.

Tower I have Ray Lahood's number, advise ready to copy.

Unable. Cleared to land two eight.

Man this place is worse than Philly. At least we're making whale pay.
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Old 03-08-2012 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
"Tower, this is Southwest 123... is the inboard available?"
Ah, that's a good point too.
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