Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Jack I know you didn't write the article, but since it was posted here just wanted to respond to a few points.
Small to midsize airports. Like JFK, IAD, ATL, ORD, DTW, MSP, DFW, IAH, LAX, SLC and SEA.
Struggling, and somehow expanding.
More like staffing companies. Especially DCI. The "regionals" run a seniority list and employ high school kids to run the office. Aircraft come from the Overlord, and are moved between staffing companies based solely on cost.
I was first indoctrinated into the Boyd logic about 10 years ago, and he has been calling for the death of the RJ as long as I can remember. Boyd is a salesman and every year people somehow keep buying his snake oil.
Small to midsize airports. Like JFK, IAD, ATL, ORD, DTW, MSP, DFW, IAH, LAX, SLC and SEA.
Struggling, and somehow expanding.
More like staffing companies. Especially DCI. The "regionals" run a seniority list and employ high school kids to run the office. Aircraft come from the Overlord, and are moved between staffing companies based solely on cost.
I was first indoctrinated into the Boyd logic about 10 years ago, and he has been calling for the death of the RJ as long as I can remember. Boyd is a salesman and every year people somehow keep buying his snake oil.
The fact is 50 seaters will not work with the current oil prices. Delta management talks about our advantage of so many types being able to right size for any route yet there is no airplane currently being publicly discussed to fill the gap between our new 737's and the contractually maxed out 76 seat RJ's. Why do you think that is?
Okay, nonrevs should not be allowed to check in online or at the least there should be a penalty when they no show. This is crap. They don't show, sorry no time to remove them and put someone else on because we can't be late... plane goes out with empty seats and nonrevs waiting.
This has to change, there are a lot of sloppy flippant nonrevs.
This has to change, there are a lot of sloppy flippant nonrevs.
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Originally Posted by Phuz
Struggling, and somehow expanding.
However!
The CRJ-700/900 are flying ATMs though (note I make no comment on the E170/175 - off high yield routes they're a rip-off). If we want scope recapture we'll have to take the low hanging fruit first. If we can recapture the CRJ-900 flying (since DAL owns every single airplane - because their original plan was to whipsaw the mainline group against the regionals all along) then the margin contributions of those airframes leaving will be gone and financially cripple the rest of the regionals into submission.
Back to my point though.
The 70/90 airframe count is as high as it will get. The 50s are evaporating out from underneath them.
So did I mis-read your post, or did you really believe that the regional industry is expanding?
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Okay, nonrevs should not be allowed to check in online or at the least there should be a penalty when they no show. This is crap. They don't show, sorry no time to remove them and put someone else on because we can't be late... plane goes out with empty seats and nonrevs waiting.
This has to change, there are a lot of sloppy flippant nonrevs.
This has to change, there are a lot of sloppy flippant nonrevs.
I'm a bit puzzled by this obsession with exact numbers in the opener.
I'm not sure what you expect to see. Is it the pay rate that is going to tell you whether this is a good opener or a bad opener?
Would it really make you guys happy if the union published a piece of paper that says we want a 84.2% raise in our Section 3 pay rates? What exactly would that prove? Does that show that DALPA is strong but if they publish a piece of paper asking for an 68.5% raise then that means they are weak?
Numbers like that are nearly meaningless at this point. You really want them to put a ridiculous throw away figure in the "opener" so you guys will cheer and then abandon it in the first 5 minutes of talks? It sounds like that is what you are asking the union to do.
I'm no expert but I think you guys may be laboring under a misconception of how these negotiations work. There are 28 sections in our contract and there is a cost associated with most all of them. The pay rate tables are only one piece of the puzzle.
By its very nature the "opener" is going to be a general guideline of which areas we think need to be emphasized but I'd be very surprised if it lists exact numbers for every section. Besides pay there are some very importabt things we need to get that are also just as expensive. Work rules, retirement, medical, disability, sick leave, vacation, etc. etc. etc.
There is going to be a long process before we have any real numbers.
It would be easy to "open" for massive improvements across the board but does that really help in actually achieving those improvements? I think not.
I'm not sure what you expect to see. Is it the pay rate that is going to tell you whether this is a good opener or a bad opener?
Would it really make you guys happy if the union published a piece of paper that says we want a 84.2% raise in our Section 3 pay rates? What exactly would that prove? Does that show that DALPA is strong but if they publish a piece of paper asking for an 68.5% raise then that means they are weak?
Numbers like that are nearly meaningless at this point. You really want them to put a ridiculous throw away figure in the "opener" so you guys will cheer and then abandon it in the first 5 minutes of talks? It sounds like that is what you are asking the union to do.
I'm no expert but I think you guys may be laboring under a misconception of how these negotiations work. There are 28 sections in our contract and there is a cost associated with most all of them. The pay rate tables are only one piece of the puzzle.
By its very nature the "opener" is going to be a general guideline of which areas we think need to be emphasized but I'd be very surprised if it lists exact numbers for every section. Besides pay there are some very importabt things we need to get that are also just as expensive. Work rules, retirement, medical, disability, sick leave, vacation, etc. etc. etc.
There is going to be a long process before we have any real numbers.
It would be easy to "open" for massive improvements across the board but does that really help in actually achieving those improvements? I think not.
Whatever Carl. Of course the really interesting thing is that I have the experience of working with pilots from the other side. YOU do not have that experience, so you are still operating in your own little world. It is gonna be interesting when you actually have to do so... And I have spent time in your world.. I KNOW how you operate..
Not exactly true about your date. If halfway through the prom you discover she won't "put out" at the after party, you quickly dump her for someone who will. If not, then you deserve to get a "peck on the cheek.". The TA will signal whether or not she is dumped at halftime. Let's hope she is a hooker.
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