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To be honest I don't think anyone should be allowed to check in from home. I mean really isn't that the point of checking in to prove that one is in fact there? Why not just take away check in completely It only takes about 2 minutes to check in on the Kiosk for those that know what they are doing and those that don't should plan on arriving with ample time anyway.
These little quirks bug me as much as you FTB.
These little quirks bug me as much as you FTB.
I venture to bet that those no show non-revs misconnected from somewhere.
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To be honest I don't think anyone should be allowed to check in from home. I mean really isn't that the point of checking in to prove that one is in fact there? Why not just take away check in completely It only takes about 2 minutes to check in on the Kiosk for those that know what they are doing and those that don't should plan on arriving with ample time anyway.
These little quirks bug me as much as you FTB.
These little quirks bug me as much as you FTB.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe non revs are given "Zone 4" boarding. With everyone bringing so many carry ons and the overheads filling up so quickly (Paying passengers ABSOLUTELY should have first dibs on overhead space), It bugs me when 'offline' non revs board ahead of me because they rushed to cut in front of people, and get their bags on, and then I, while traveling on my own airline, have to gate check my overnight bag, and wait for it at baggage claim for 45 minutes.
This happened to me twice in the last two weeks commuting to work. I was not in uniform so I could not just put a deadhead crew tag on and take it downstairs. One day, a Compass FA with three big bags, and a Skywest pilot, with two big bags, boarded ahead of me, got their stuff in the overheads, and then me and about 4 PAYING passengers had to gate check our bags. The week prior, same thing happened but it was a Pinnacle FO, and two FA's from ASA and Comair I think.
Dont really know how to fix this but maybe give Delta non revs zone 4, and then offline non revs zone 6 or something.
I realize in the grand scheme of things this isnt a terrible issue, but when you are commuting to work, or commuting home, sucks to have to check your bags and wait at baggage claim for awhile, while non revs from other airlines get their bags on no problem, because they were willing to run to the front of the line and cut off paying passengers.
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On Comair - thats what happens when people start to make B scale wages again.. They shuffle it away. In the same period of time that comair has been shrinking, Compass and Shuttle have been growing.
ASA's lost flying on DCI is going to GoJet, again with the shuffle.
Pinnacle's future - is future. Not present. All speculation.
Frontier is an amalgamation and poorly run airline. Nothing short of a sell off can save that place from BB. The very few parked chataqua 145s are being used outside of airline service for charters where they can.
Speaking of the present - 5 minutes on wikipedia/apc reveals appx ~890 50 seat RJs currently flying in service of legacy airline branded operations in the US alone.
Far from dead.
ASA's lost flying on DCI is going to GoJet, again with the shuffle.
Pinnacle's future - is future. Not present. All speculation.
Frontier is an amalgamation and poorly run airline. Nothing short of a sell off can save that place from BB. The very few parked chataqua 145s are being used outside of airline service for charters where they can.
Speaking of the present - 5 minutes on wikipedia/apc reveals appx ~890 50 seat RJs currently flying in service of legacy airline branded operations in the US alone.
Far from dead.
being shuffled. They're being parked. Sent to the desert.
Frontier is parking them because they don't make money. That's why regionals are losing money. The airplanes haven't been profitable for years. Only the FFD contacts have been keeping most regionals heads above water.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source of info.
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As a crew member though I really try to stay on top of the seating situation and if the seats are tight with nonrevs, check and make sure we put them all on. If the agent wants to put the delay on me for the extra 2 or 3 minutes to put the nonrevs on then fine.
If it was his/her family they would likely appreciate my determination. I nonrev quite a bit and therefore try to take care of them as I would my own family.
No this coming out of MCO. So I doubt there were connections. This is off a buddy pass that I was watching over. They assigned 25 nonrevs, then took 8 back and assigned a few more after the fact so I guess they let some on but it still went with 1 open seat. all of this D-10 and inside. That's a lot of unnecessary work for gate agents with no time to spare.
It happened to me not long ago out of PHF. The flight was full and there was a family of 4 on the nonrev list ahead of us that never showed but showed up on the airport list way early. At first it was doubtful we'd get on and then that family actually got 4 seats together and we ended up being split up 1, 1, 1 and 1. Not good when two of those are under 3. The gate agent worked the crowd to see if they could get 2 and 2 together which we did. But as we're sitting on the plane I notice this empty row and sure enough the door shuts, people get up and move into it (CRJ900) and I'm thinking, this checking in at home is not a good thing.
I'd prefer as x150 said, go back to nonrevs check in on kiosks only.
It happened to me not long ago out of PHF. The flight was full and there was a family of 4 on the nonrev list ahead of us that never showed but showed up on the airport list way early. At first it was doubtful we'd get on and then that family actually got 4 seats together and we ended up being split up 1, 1, 1 and 1. Not good when two of those are under 3. The gate agent worked the crowd to see if they could get 2 and 2 together which we did. But as we're sitting on the plane I notice this empty row and sure enough the door shuts, people get up and move into it (CRJ900) and I'm thinking, this checking in at home is not a good thing.
I'd prefer as x150 said, go back to nonrevs check in on kiosks only.
I guess some agents don't know how to look but you can see if they are in fact misconnects or if they simply checked in early. I also believe that if they get to a nonrev that doesn't answer simply call the name 2x and then move on.
As a crew member though I really try to stay on top of the seating situation and if the seats are tight with nonrevs, check and make sure we put them all on. If the agent wants to put the delay on me for the extra 2 or 3 minutes to put the nonrevs on then fine.
If it was his/her family they would likely appreciate my determination. I nonrev quite a bit and therefore try to take care of them as I would my own family.
As a crew member though I really try to stay on top of the seating situation and if the seats are tight with nonrevs, check and make sure we put them all on. If the agent wants to put the delay on me for the extra 2 or 3 minutes to put the nonrevs on then fine.
If it was his/her family they would likely appreciate my determination. I nonrev quite a bit and therefore try to take care of them as I would my own family.
The rolling over of the standby list is a manual process and I have watched it after missing a flight. I have seen them no complete the rollover until 30 min before the departure of the next flight.
Just sayin..... The reason my in fact not be the nonrevs fault.
We need to protect this benefit and blaming nonrevs is not the way to do it without the entire story.
Ha. Okay. I agree. APC is off too. There aren't 850+ 50 seat rj's flying around for US legacy operators. More like 100, and they just follow me everywhere i go. New fangled crowdsourcing wiki technology, can't trust that gee-wiz stuff! And its not fox news, so it must be wrong! That dang Anonymous guy must be making up fleet numbers and editing 15 different airline wikipedia pages again.
That APC updater guy needs to update his numbers too, hey you're a moderator drop him a line! Tell the guy there aren't 850 50 seaters.
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Whatever Carl. Of course the really interesting thing is that I have the experience of working with pilots from the other side. YOU do not have that experience, so you are still operating in your own little world. It is gonna be interesting when you actually have to do so... And I have spent time in your world.. I KNOW how you operate..
For whatever reason, you've degenerated into name-calling and personal attacks without regard for the validity of many widely held opinions you so vehemently object to. Your credibility is shot.
But don't let that stop you from flaunting your arrogance.
TSquare--a legend in his own mind.
Welcome to my ignore list.
Your posts used to be somewhat insightful, and even useful.
For whatever reason, you've degenerated into name-calling and personal attacks without regard for the validity of many opinions you so vehemently object to. Your credibility is shot.
But don't let that stop you from flaunting your arrogance.
TSquare--a legend in his own mind.
Welcome to my ignore list.
For whatever reason, you've degenerated into name-calling and personal attacks without regard for the validity of many opinions you so vehemently object to. Your credibility is shot.
But don't let that stop you from flaunting your arrogance.
TSquare--a legend in his own mind.
Welcome to my ignore list.
Jeesh, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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