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Timbo 03-21-2012 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by shaan01 (Post 1155719)
Yes I can see why it killed a few brain cells lol this place sucks...I cant wait to get out of Putnam County... no opportunities here at all. Yes the Holiday Inn by Lowes or the one that used to be by the River because thats the Best Western now I believe.


Yeah, we stayed right on the river.

But you're not too far from Orlando and/or Daytona beach, so you could stop by Embry Riddle or visit the Citation place at MCO, maybe they need a line boy in exchange for some flying time.

Jughead 03-21-2012 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey (Post 1155684)
Fed Ex works great...

Meh. I'm sure it might, but that seems like a lot of ass pain for one round of golf.
Guess I'll just rent. Always been a subscriber of the three F theory anyway. F is for Fairway.

Tomcat 03-21-2012 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1155701)
Let your reps know that. What we hear and see now, even the rumors on the DALPA forum and on here are just that, rumors. The final deal will look a lot different than what we see today. It could take a long time, we just have to be patient with the process. There is a lot of balls in the air. Time to watch and see where they land.

I'll be sure to continue to talk to my reps. My goals today for this contract are the same as they were one year ago. No sense in being tossed about like a ship in the ocean over all of this.

I want my company to be healthy and profitable, I want to share in the prosperity of our company. It's time to move to the left seat for many reasons including getting my retirement in order. I will not vote vote for anything that delays that upgrade.

I have an expectation on the performance of my negotiations agent. I will not be swayed by noise.

N9373M 03-21-2012 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 1155729)
Meh. I'm sure it might, but that seems like a lot of ass pain for one round of golf.
Guess I'll just rent. Always been a subscriber of the three F theory anyway. F is for Fairway.

Rentals == excuse for poor play

TheManager 03-21-2012 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1155709)
Who was the MEC Chair at DALPA when ASA was running BAE-146's around with over 70 seats?

Who was the MEC Chair at NWALPA when the Mesaba Avro's with 69 seats were grandfathered in for eternity?

You don't have to like LM, but make sure you are placing the blame in the right place...

IIRC, the max "large RJ limits" at DAL and NWA were greater than 255 currently allowed. Is that considered "reducing" DCI limits or not?


Well, should be easy to figure out. The first BAE flew for ASA in 1995, when they actually flew. They were a cronic POS and were down for Mtx constantly. Were a big embarassment during the Summer Olympics a year later. They were ditched in 98 for the crj 50.

However, the blame should go back to 1993, the year they introduced the the ATR 70 really.

So, would that be the illustrious B. Brown?

LM was the one that moved the "line in the sand" and brought us the crj 90's which is arguably more damaging.

acl65pilot 03-21-2012 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 1155741)
I'll be sure to continue to talk to my reps. My goals today for this contract are the same as they were one year ago. No sense in being tossed about like a ship in the ocean over all of this.

I want my company to be healthy and profitable, I want to share in the prosperity of our company. It's time to move to the left seat for many reasons including getting my retirement in order. I will not vote vote for anything that delays that upgrade.

I have an expectation on the performance of my negotiations agent. I will not be swayed by noise.

Exactly and anything that is "leaked" right now is just that noise. Further, I suspect any leaks are not from our union.

sailingfun 03-21-2012 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 1155680)
The 76 seat jet came in under Moak. I had him on my jumpseat discussing this very issue just weeks before the camel came into the tent. He was adamant regarding our subcontractors not flying anything over 70 seats.

Personally, I'm flexible on many issues regarding C2012 and will look at the bigger picture when reviewing the TA, but any slippage in scope is a non-starter.


Your statement is partially correct. Malone allowed the EMB170/175 at DCI. Malone raised the weight limit in LOA 46. Prior to that the jet was in excess of the weight limit. Moak allowed them to put 6 more seats in the jets during the 1113 process. They were already on the property flying for DCI before Moak even became the MEC chairman. Once before the court it was highly unlikely that they would have restricted the seats in those aircraft. We lost the battle in LOA 46. I personally spoke with Malone about the gross weight increase and what a huge mistake it would be. He insisted it was needed and that we could not economically fly that jet at the mainline. Now he is in the running to lead DPA. Perhaps he feels bad and wants to fix the biggest scope mistake ever made at Delta.

Free Bird 03-21-2012 01:03 PM

Reserve Availability Llst
 
Does anyone know why some of the short calls are showing on the right column and some on the left column of the reserve availability list? I don't recall seeing them on the left, is it new and if so what does it mean?

Thanks

acl65pilot 03-21-2012 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1155774)
Does anyone know why some of the short calls are showing on the right column and some on the left column of the reserve availability list? I don't recall seeing them on the left, is it new and if so what does it mean?

Thanks

Left would be today, and right tomorrow. Look at the dates.

Sink r8 03-21-2012 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1155759)
Now he is in the running to lead DPA. Perhaps he feels bad and wants to fix the biggest scope mistake ever made at Delta.

Probably a topic for that DPA thread, but can you substantiate Malone's involvement within DPA? I've heard that he was seen helping them recruit, from a friend that confronted him on his role, and he said he was just "trying to help out". Could never get confirmation he was "in the running to lead it".

As far as his feelings go, what would be the point in bringing back a product that didn't work too well, for the sake of soothing his sentiments? Was LOA 46 not enough?

Malone did OK in C2K, except of course that it was only his first RJ giveaway. He's done his part, and reached up to, and beyond, his capabilities. We don't need egos or feelings to be considered. This, by the way, is true for Moak. Everyone plays a role, everyone moves up or out. We get in trouble everytime we let one of these guys build a nest.


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