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dragon 06-14-2012 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1212128)
RFP=Request For Proposals. As in, hey BA, hey Airbus, make us an offer.

A350, B787-9, B777-300ER (unless we find some used ones). I would love to see us buy 747-8s but I would also like to win the powerball - not gonna happen.

sailingfun 06-14-2012 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1212131)
But on the other hand, we've never said no to them before. That has ramifications to how big of an initial "Best Deal" we were given. I think DAL Pilots saying no would send some shock waves.

Not gonna happen though. We'll vote this puppy in.

We have said no before. We said no on the 777 rates. The company promptly sold the last 8 aircraft on firm order and marketed the 8 on the property for sale. In the end we came down to basically their original offer however lost half the airframes.

Carl Spackler 06-14-2012 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1211787)
We will pay for any improvements in another TA, we may get 5% more but we will give it up somewhere else. It is a negotiation.

That's NOT what negotiations mean FIIGMO!!!

Look man, you know I love ya, but please think about this. We'd all be working for the exact same conditions and pay from 1930 if this was the case. A cost neutral negotiations is appropriate when the company is in trouble. It is NOT appropriate when the company is making billions.

DALPA/management have done an incredible job of getting our newer people to believe that negotiations is defined as paying for any gains with losses in other areas.

Sigh...

Carl

TenYearsGone 06-14-2012 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1212116)
We're going to outsource WB's?!? :eek::D

We already are, silly boy!:eek:

TEN

dragon 06-14-2012 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1212148)
We have said no before. We said no on the 777 rates. The company promptly sold the last 8 aircraft on firm order and marketed the 8 on the property for sale. In the end we came down to basically their original offer however lost half the airframes.

Thanks, I was misinformed. Probably won't be the last time. Have we ever turned down a contract though?

80ktsClamp 06-14-2012 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1212148)
We have said no before. We said no on the 777 rates. The company promptly sold the last 8 aircraft on firm order and marketed the 8 on the property for sale. In the end we came down to basically their original offer however lost half the airframes.

And now we have 10 more than that!

See, things work out in the long term. :)

slowplay 06-14-2012 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1212163)
And now we have 10 more than that!

See, things work out in the long term. :)

Yeah, 7 years, 1310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension termination....they work out in the long term. I hope that you're smart enough not to help yourself into that career model.;) Of course, when you're hired at 25 you have time to "recover.":eek:

forgot to bid 06-14-2012 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1212191)
Yeah, 7 years, 1310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension termination....they work out in the long term. I hope that you're smart enough not to help yourself into that career model.;) Of course, when you're hired at 25 you have time to "recover.":eek:

Wait, saying no to 777s resulted in 1,310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension terminations?

slowplay 06-14-2012 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1212199)
Wait, saying no to 777s resulted in 1,310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension terminations?

I can see now why the SEC is viewed as an athletic conference....:D

Carl Spackler 06-14-2012 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1212199)
Wait, saying no to 777s resulted in 1,310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension terminations?

You bet FTB. Now apologize for your insolence before slowplay issues a scathing fact-based response.


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1212216)
I can see now why the SEC is viewed as an athletic conference....:D

See! :D

Carl


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