Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1211787)

I am curious what will make the company agree to that? I feel that 76 seat aircraft are not recoverable. No matter how much table pounding is going to get it back at this time. I do feel however, as the industry evolves and the pilot shortage becomes real, there will be an opportunity to further contain scope of the likes in this TA and bring more of the DCI flying to mainline and we could see 76 seats back at mainline. Today, DAL has no incentive to do so and to think we can just send it back to demand something else has its own perils.

We will pay for any improvements in another TA, we may get 5% more but we will give it up somewhere else. It is a negotiation. If we want to demand and hold our breath, the company has more options time and money to do what they will. The is a small win (i wish it were more), in 2 1/2 years we may be getting nothing or a bigger win, but we will be much better off with this TA than without.

I also see that if DAL wants to merge or assume assets from say (AMR) on JULY 2,2012, they will need our cooperation and they will indeed be looking to provide incentives for our cooperation. That would mean this TA was just improved that much more. Heck every time a side letter needs to be signed fine. Just give me 1 or 2% pay increase.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1211819)

I too am curious. I think a sunset clause is more likely then recapturing the 76 seaters. I feel the concept of our Sec 1 in the TA is a step in the right direction. There are concerns with it too, mainly with the language. We were able to hold the line at 76 seats, but at the price of more 76 seat hulls. So what's the price next time?

Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1211830)

Hey mods, why can't I go back about 12 hours and edit a post. Is something broke or did they turn it off? I need to add something.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1211836)

Ferd,

I think the EDIT option is available for a limited period of time. You can quote yourself and edit that.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1211841)

All the A awards are out.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1211763)

That got shot down in negotiations. We will have to shoot this TA down for another shot at that.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1211987)

Going to be dead honest here.

Shoot it down or not, the next TA will have more large jets in it. Its what the company has decided it needs to go forward. If we want any short of deal in the near term, the numbers are going to go up. It this group is willing to wait and hold the line, then you may see something here, but not for a long long long long time. I'd say years. Not kidding.