You are looking down the road, but not noticing the broken down cars next to us. (US,UAL,AA). I think we all deserve a 50% raise and zero RJs flying for us, but that just isn't reality. Many on here think they deserve a homerun, but in reality, a double here or single there will lead us to our pay dreams, but over short contracts over time. The rally cry on here is loud, but talk to the NMB chief, and she would probably tell you to hush! Attend a roadshow and bring up these same concerns.

Addict! :D

Carl

Maybe he was just calling out Elvis for having attended that knucklehead college where the Vols play.

You think that will bait him out of hibernation FTB? :D

Carl

Dude, that sure sounds like personal experience right there...

Carl

Although I never thought this TA would bring restoration, I thought it would be a restorative contract. Using the "moneyball"/ short term mindset, where do we end up as a pilot group in a decade? Once we have sold back productivity, profit sharing, scope and captain seats for small pay raises what will we have left? At some point the company will no longer be able to squeeze blood from a stone and then we WILL have to deal will the FEAR of a full section 6.......

So from the latest Negotiators' Notepad am I supposed to read this an improvement to reserve rules? The example given seems to be total snake oil salesman BS in an attempt to make me overlook the ALV+15 exploitation that is being enabled....


Max Reserve
Currently, a reserve pilot can be assigned flying not to exceed the ALV.* Once his projection is within two hours of the ALV, he is considered “FULL,” and is no longer required to remain on call for the rest of the bid period.* The TA will increase the amount of flying to which a reserve pilot can be assigned to ALV + 15:00.* However, he will be considered FULL when his projection equals or exceeds his reserve guarantee.*
*
Consider, for example, a pilot who has two weeks of vacation and is awarded a reserve line.* His reserve guarantee will be set at approximately 38:00 (depending upon the ALV and the number of days in the bid period), and his line will contain approximately nine on-call days.* Under the current PWA, this pilot must remain on call until his projection is within two hours of the ALV.* Under the TA, he will be FULL once his projection reaches 38:00.

We aren't even supposed to be close to a deal until at least 2 years after the amendable date. That has always been the case. Now, an opportunity arrives that gives us a bump in pay, better work rules, tighter scope and a ratio on mainline vs DCI growth, tighter international scope and domestic scope, and you want the homerun? With the other airlines in our peer group tanking? If we do have to wait a couple years thanks to management moving on with the next plan, what kind of a raise would you like then? 44%? Good luck with that.

I noticed too and I love how they give a "best case scenario" as their example!

Do you really think every reserve will fly ALV+15? How much extra flying have reserves flown lately? DL staffs this airline for two busy months of the year, July and August. Those are the busy months. The other months still have the same number of reserves, but the flying hours go down, especially in the Winter. ALPA has stated that this could cost 300 jobs as a negative, but the Early Out program will target 250 total, and then the addition of the 717s would add another 1100 (according to an ALPA guy in ATL lounge).

Maybe they don't fly as much now, but under the new rules with less staffing, reserves will be flying more. How can you NOT see this coming?