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DLpilot 04-22-2012 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1173871)
Yes but you are going to get SC then. You can't request AM or PM without signing yourself up. This should be fixed.

Go to PCS and under slip request at the bottom screen hit (enter date ranges to be 1st in sequence for SC). Then put in AM or PM for the date you want.

There is a new template now to request a time for only if needed. There was an email from alpa about it last week. It is part of LOA 29.

johnso29 04-22-2012 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1173875)
Ahhhhh, thanks there it is!

But, thanks for the warning. I'm hoping that I've done enough of these so I'll keep my head down:D

But, yes, they should change that so at least you can put a preference in based on what you may or may not have going on a certain day.

That change occurs next month Ferd.

Ferd149 04-22-2012 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1173889)
That change occurs next month Ferd.

Story of my life:D

But I'll be ready for next time!

sinca3 04-22-2012 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1173783)
What kind of man refers to a shirt as a "top?"

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/photo/5326179.cms

bigbusdriver 04-22-2012 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1173716)
If you have exceeded the ALV for the month you are done. You can also refuse any trip assignment that will put you over the ALV if you are still under it. You are free to GS and YS however I think there are a few restrictions on the YS as to how much you can pickup. This is off the top of my head. I would download the contract and make sure you understand the rules. I would guess that perhaps half the pilots I speak with on reserve are unaware they can't be forced to fly a trip that projects them over the ALV. You might only have 55 hours but if they try and give you a 24 hour domestic trip and the ALV is 78 hours you can refuse it.

The contract says "A reserve pilot will not be: assigned a rotation that: will cause his credit to exceed the ALV." No where does it say scheduling can try and trick me into taking it and that I have to know there's a secret part of the contract that I have to know verbatim so that I can refuse it. It says they can not assign it to me period. End of story. If that's going on, I'd have those pilots call ALPA and get assignment pay on top of the rotation pay. 48 hours of pay for a 24 hour rotation should fix that fishing trip.

jabwmu 04-22-2012 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1173876)
Next month they start a bucket system for SC
0-2 is bucket 1, then 3-5 bucket 2, the 6... is bucket 3.

Based on the new short call bucket system I have a question. What bucket system takes priority, RAW or short call bucket? Here's the scenario:

Everyone on call is in bucket 1 based on RAW and bucket 2 based on Short Call. You are in bucket 2 based on RAW but bucket 1 based on Short Call. So is it likely you will get short call even though you are in bucket 2 based on RAW?

Thanks.

johnso29 04-22-2012 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1173927)
Based on the new short call bucket system I have a question. What bucket system takes priority, RAW or short call bucket? Here's the scenario:

Everyone on call is in bucket 1 based on RAW and bucket 2 based on Short Call. You are in bucket 2 based on RAW but bucket 1 based on Short Call. So is it likely you will get short call even though you are in bucket 2 based on RAW?

Thanks.

RAW value has no bearing when assigning SC. SC buckets and RAW buckets are entirely separate.

From Scheduling Alert 12-06

Please note that RAW value grouping and short call group are not the same. RAW value is not considered when assigning short call periods. Within each short call group, pilots who have submitted a yellow slip to be first in sequence for short call will be considered first, in seniority order, followed by pilots who have not submitted a yellow slip to be first in sequence for short call, in inverse seniority order. A pilot will only be considered first in sequence for the short call period(s) that match the stipulations of his yellow slip. He will be considered in inverse seniority order for all other short call periods. A pilot with six or more short call credits will be considered for conversion to additional short call periods if he has submitted a yellow slip to be first in sequence for short call and indicated a desire for more than six short calls on his yellow slip request.

Express pilot 04-22-2012 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1173927)
Based on the new short call bucket system I have a question. What bucket system takes priority, RAW or short call bucket? Here's the scenario:

Everyone on call is in bucket 1 based on RAW and bucket 2 based on Short Call. You are in bucket 2 based on RAW but bucket 1 based on Short Call. So is it likely you will get short call even though you are in bucket 2 based on RAW?

Thanks.

I read it that they are different buckets. RAW has its own bucket and SC has its own. So if you are in bucket 2 on RAW and in bucket 1 on SC, then yes you will get some SC your way.

Sink r8 04-22-2012 03:16 PM

I guess the APA/USAPA deal isn't really linked to what we negotiate:

US Airways Walks Tightrope in American Airlines Merger Plan - WSJ.com

"...US Airways' offer would provide pilots an immediate 5.5% raise and 3% increases a year for five years, according to American's Allied Pilots Association union. After that, the contract could be reset to an average of the compensation at rivals United Continental Holdings Inc. and Delta Air Lines Inc. Meanwhile, no American pilots would be furloughed..."

Seems like a fairly cheap price to deliver the keys to the kingdom to Parker. To Doug Parker.

Bill Lumberg 04-22-2012 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1174028)
I guess the APA/USAPA deal isn't really linked to what we negotiate:

US Airways Walks Tightrope in American Airlines Merger Plan - WSJ.com

"...US Airways' offer would provide pilots an immediate 5.5% raise and 3% increases a year for five years, according to American's Allied Pilots Association union. After that, the contract could be reset to an average of the compensation at rivals United Continental Holdings Inc. and Delta Air Lines Inc. Meanwhile, no American pilots would be furloughed..."

Seems like a fairly cheap price to deliver the keys to the kingdom to Parker. To Doug Parker.

Compared to a 20% paycut in BK? I think that is a pretty good deal, with a 7 year fence. And, we don't know if that WSJ article is completely accurate. The APA notes probably were fairly close. It did say 5.5% the first year, but then DL equal within 2 years, and then the average UA/DL within 5. It would be a huge gain for the USAir pilots, though. Anything that raises the bar for our closest competitors is good for us. We supposedly are doing a lot better than they are, right? We have more promise, right? That's what they say.... until Dalpa gets involved and again tries to manage expectations, because it is easier for them to do that then actually negotiate..... NO EXCUSES BOYS.


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