Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search
Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-17-2012, 05:29 PM
  #99681  
The Brown Dot +1
 
scambo1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
What the hell?!

Guess I'm going to need an emergency man card renewal.

Carl
Diggin the jacket.
scambo1 is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 05:33 PM
  #99682  
Back on TDY
 
Carl Spackler's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Default

Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Seconded!!

Denny
Thirded.

Anybody posts the 100,000th besides Guard Dude deserves to be Tool of the Day for a year.

Carl
Carl Spackler is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 05:37 PM
  #99683  
veut gagner à la loterie
 
forgot to bid's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Thirded.

Anybody posts the 100,000th besides Guard Dude deserves to be Tool of the Day for a year.

Carl
I AGREE!!!!!

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
What the hell?!

Guess I'm going to need an emergency man card renewal.

Carl
Jesse can help. He's our version of the dudes in vegas handing out those trading cards.
forgot to bid is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 05:38 PM
  #99684  
veut gagner à la loterie
 
forgot to bid's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Totally agree. Another point that I've not heard discussed is that the Environmental "Protection" Agency hasn't approved the construction of a new refinery in over a decade. Good luck to any competitor trying to find a refinery to buy...because it's damn sure nobody can build one. Delta's done the equivalent of purchasing the only home for sale in a neighborhood with a buiding moratorium.

Carl
And since no new ones are onthe way from what I understand, what Delta did was ensure we don't lose yet another source of Jet A therein further driving up a large crack spread despite an oil price drop.
forgot to bid is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 05:52 PM
  #99685  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Denny Crane's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Default

Originally Posted by newKnow View Post
Denny Crane! How ya doing?

I doin' great!! Just biding my time by pulling out my hair while I wait to see whats in the TA!!

Denny
Denny Crane is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 05:54 PM
  #99686  
The Brown Dot +1
 
scambo1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Default

Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
I doin' great!! Just biding my time by pulling out my hair while I wait to see whats in the TA!!

Denny
May I suggest Canadian Club and 7? It seems to help.
scambo1 is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 05:56 PM
  #99687  
At home on the maddog!
 
DAL 88 Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
Default

Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
I doin' great!! Just biding my time by pulling out my hair while I wait to see whats in the TA!!

Denny
While we're all waiting, here are some interesting facts to mull over...
__________________________________________________ _

SWAPA has officially stated that their average Captain makes over $230,000/year. They go on to say that their average pilot gets 105 TFP/month. The current 12 year Captain rate at SWA is $186.06. So, at 105 TFP/month, that translates into an annual income of $234,436, which is consistent with their statement of "over $230,000."

They get a 9.3% company match for their 401k. So, they have to contribute 9.3% in order to get the match of 9.3%. Of course, this is still money that is paid to them. But they cannot use it for living expenses if they want to get the benefit of the 9.3% company contribution. So you could look at it that their average Captain pay is $212,634 (before taxes of course) and they are getting an 18.6% DC contribution.

There is also profit sharing, which for the past 5 years has averaged 8% at SWA. As I understand it, their profit sharing goes into their 401k too.

So, total compensation for the SWA Captain (including DC and profit sharing) = $234,436 + $21,803 (company match) + $18,755 (profit sharing) for a grand total of $274,994.

Assuming our average MD-88 Captain flies 80 hours per month at the current 12 year rate of $168, that translates into an annual income of $161,280. Add in the 14% DC contribution of $22,579 and the profit sharing he got for last year of about $7500 for a grand total of $191,359.

For our MD-88 Captain to have total compensation equal to an SWA Captain, he would need $83,635 more, which would be a percentage increase of ~44%.
__________________________________________________ ____

Oh... and Section 1 (scope) must take very positive steps to reverse the outsourcing. Read my lips: NO NEW RJ's!
DAL 88 Driver is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 06:12 PM
  #99688  
Super Moderator
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Default

Originally Posted by bluejuice71 View Post
I'm missing something. If our capacity is going to be down another 3-4% why would we be getting a bunch of 717's that are supposedly growth airframes?

Blue,

These numbers often represent capacity of the Delta "system" which includes DCI and possibly even some JV (not really sure about JVs). So DCI can be getting reduced more and mainline less etc.

As far as the 717s, even if we are getting them, which is still not known, they would trickle in slowly and probably wouldn't be online in any great number until next summer at the earliest anyway.

And relax Gloopy - if we do get the 717s, they will be sans Pilots.

Scoop
Scoop is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 06:13 PM
  #99689  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,716
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Totally agree. Another point that I've not heard discussed is that the Environmental "Protection" Agency hasn't approved the construction of a new refinery in over a decade. Good luck to any competitor trying to find a refinery to buy...because it's damn sure nobody can build one. Delta's done the equivalent of purchasing the only home for sale in a neighborhood with a building moratorium.

Carl
I believe there are another 2 for sale, one if not both from ConnacoPhillips. One is in Marcus Hook, Pa
iceman49 is offline  
Old 05-17-2012, 06:24 PM
  #99690  
Gets Weekends Off
 
bluejuice71's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: MD88
Posts: 447
Default

Excellent post DAL 88 Driver. People need to be reminded of how far we've fallen and what it would take just to match SWA. This TA better address the inequities or it'll be a no vote from me.
bluejuice71 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22594
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices