No shizzle. Take the ALPA v. DPA stuff elsewhere. Let's attempt, at least, some form of focus.

Using my best Eastern European female voice, "I grow tired."

So, what's up with the new hires?

Don't let the cyber door hit you in the rear end on your way out.

My apologies to everyone (except Gearjerk) for responding to a point that was made in this thread, which then resulted in the thread being hijacked. Hopefully we can get this thread back to its intended purpose now.

Very glad to see new hires again. I think Delta is going to be an exciting place to be in the future. Looking forward to flying with you guys!

Even more regal, Queen Victoria's comment after attending a performance of "HMS Pinafore": "We are not amused."

Sooooo....

is indoc a month long?
Whats is the fancy dinner I heard about?

More like 2 weeks unless its changed. Dinner is a formal welcome to DL dinner with family and big wigs, etc. Its actually very classy.

Time to West Coast at DAL
 

This is one topic that I think is confusing. Some say it will take 3+ years because that is what it has taken recently. What you have to consider is that we have not hired in 3 years and have not hired steadily for over 12 years.

Guys about 500 numbers above the plug are currently in LAX and SLC. With projected hiring at 600/year guys may see the west coast in a year.

One more thing I have noticed - when things are slow guys get tired of waiting and bid where they want to be, even if they will be very very junior. When the movement picks up some guys will wait for a little more seniority before they move around which may also help more junior guys get out west quicker.

Scoop

Exactly right. Significant and sustained hiring makes bidding magic happen far beyond the "how many numbers from the plug does it take today to..." hypotheticals.

I think a few hundred pilots into the hiring cycle, provided we are still hiring, will see some examples of new hires getting west coast base(s) within their first year, assuming they are on a plane for their year freeze that is based there. Not everyone who wants it, but we will see it here and there. I think 2 years is a very safe guestimate as long as we continue to hire the numbers people are talking about. Sustained hiring in significant numbers causes a lot of unexpected air bubbles in the seniority list.

There is supposed to be more hiring in under two years than there's been total since 2001. Movement will be much faster all around if that holds true.

737-900er = more bodies needed in LAX, even with the 757 draw down!

TEN

That's a great question. I walked out of the psych office feeling like....well, a different person. What did they do to me? Hahaha. On a side note, 8 out of 8 in my group made it to the second day. Awesome group of guys. I'm really excited!

It was, this is from 14 years ago, a formal dinner that you brought your wife/girlfriend/significant other to so the big wigs could fill you full of the kool aid with statements like "I'd like to welcome our newest class of millionaires". Enjoy it because unless things have really changed it is one of only 2 or 3 nights that they sprung for a hotel room. Then it's off to the crash pad for training.