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sailingfun 09-17-2014 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1729106)
Excellent post, gloopy!

We tried the open for the moon strategy once. We lost 7 of the 15 777's and ended up 100 an hour below our opener with a new rate about 10 bucks an hour above the companies opener.

gzsg 09-17-2014 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1729113)
We tried the open for the moon strategy once. We lost 7 of the 15 777's and ended up 100 an hour below our opener with a new rate about 10 bucks an hour above the companies opener.

Then let's take concessions for shiney new jets!!

tsquare 09-17-2014 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1729132)
Then let's take concessions for shiney new jets!!


Sounds good to me.

gzsg 09-17-2014 09:19 AM

RA has told Wall Street over and over we are in the bag.

Dragging out C2015 and going to war is not an option for him.

This insane fleet strategy has him in a box as well. Our pilots average age is 53 plus. IMO they are angry and impatient.

Management has their options and we do as well. And to be clear i'm not talking about any illegal activities. Informational picketing and working to rule would change the dynamic rapidly.

Let's hope management chooses to recognize our billions in concessions and the value.we bring to the corporation.

gzsg 09-17-2014 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1729140)
Sounds good to me.


Big surprise there.

You and Sailing need to learn management never considers pilots when buying jets.

EVER

tsquare 09-17-2014 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1729156)
Big surprise there.

You and Sailing need to learn management never considers pilots when buying jets.

EVER

Wow... news flash. Jerry finally gets it. Yet you still like that bigger pays more crapola....

Just how clueless do you think everybody else is Jerry?

And where's this mythical chart that you alluded to on the doughnut site. I saw nothing there other than the usual garbage.

DAL 88 Driver 09-17-2014 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1729170)
Wow... news flash. Jerry finally gets it. Yet you still like that bigger pays more crapola....

Just how clueless do you think everybody else is Jerry?

And where's this mythical chart that you alluded to on the doughnut site. I saw nothing there other than the usual garbage.

http://delta-pilots.org/storage/imag...=1410451316038

http://delta-pilots.org/storage/imag...=1410451356618

Purple Drank 09-17-2014 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1728927)

I STRONGLY suggest you guys think hard about what you'd like to accomplish and find a constructive way to get there.

Yes. Because DALPA always knows best. :rolleyes:

Serious question: Do you think DALPA has ever made a strategic or tactical mistake? If so...what?

tsquare 09-17-2014 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1729152)
Dragging out C2015 and going to war is not an option for him.

Not an all out protracted war, that is probably true, but he can inflict serious damage on us way before we can on him by simply doing nothing. You are putting a lot of stock in that "labor peace" thingy. It's a big bet you are advocating. I am not saying that we should lay down, not by a long shot, but if you think merely talking about labor unrest is gonna get us a lot more, you are delusional.


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1729152)
This insane fleet strategy has him in a box as well. Our pilots average age is 53 plus. IMO they are angry and impatient.

Insane fleet plan? Do elucidate please. As to the "age 53" thing, you are probably right, but that means they have 12 years left. If they spend 3 or 4 of that getting the gains that you and others say we deserve, maybe it isn't all that good a deal.. Oh wait.. TVM is a myth. Nevermind.


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1729152)
Management has their options and we do as well. And to be clear i'm not talking about any illegal activities. Informational picketing and working to rule would change the dynamic rapidly.

Knock yourself out. I'll be right there when the time for it is right. Until then..... I'll keep going to work and doing my job.


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1729152)
Let's hope management chooses to recognize our billions in concessions and the value.we bring to the corporation.

I hope they do too.

DAL 88 Driver 09-17-2014 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1729170)
And where's this mythical chart that you alluded to on the doughnut site. I saw nothing there other than the usual garbage.

You asked for it! I finally found a way to post it. :)

If you've read my posts over the years, this should not be new information to you.


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