Both. Did somebody surgically remove your spine?

No. Pay rates back to the peak in C2K on date of signing. Profit sharing is a separate discussion after C2015 ratification.

As long as the $325 an hour is on date of signing, yes.

See above.

Yes. I kept my teeth...and my spine.

No you don't ERflyer. You DON'T want this. You're fighting as hard as you possibly can to ensure it doesn't happen. Why you do it, is an open question.

Hopefully this helps.

Carl

Glad to see a few sharp pilots here realize that compound interest is the 8th wonder of the world. I'll take the 15% all day everyday

I've forgotten how delicate you are Karnak. Please accept my apologies on behalf of Timbo and the rest of us Neanderthals.

Now, why can't you even use the word RESTORATION?

Carl

Thanks for your support! My last (of 4) kid is almost out of the house, as soon as I can get her out of my hair, I will definitely consider running for an LEC position, especially if this contract is another rushed 4,8,3,3 cram down.

How this MEC can pretend the last 10 years never happened is beyond me. :rolleyes:

That's the problem Carl, too many Delicate pilots...:rolleyes:

Karnak, if you aren't willing to fight for restoration, just get out of the way.

The reason you come across as afraid is not because of an expectations mismatch Karnak. You come across as afraid because of your relentless fight to minimize our expectations and highlight the obstacles to restoring our profession.

That's not why people think you're an appeaser Karnak. They think you're an appeaser because of your rock solid backing for a no-risk approach to contractual gains.

Everyone accepts that Karnak. What we don't accept are people like you who are clearly here on behalf of management/DALPA, yet you try to portray yourself as a "line pilot like the rest of us." In fact, you're silent on all other subjects here until the topic of contractual gains comes up. Then you're here front and center warning us of the obstacles and the dangers of asking for too much. Odd, isn't it.

Of course not. How on Earth do you come up with that canard?

Carl

That doesn't really help.

I'm just trying to interject some realism. Restoration won't happen because your employer will never give it to you. I do want it but I know it'll never happen. Sorry. Reality sucks.

Knowing that your employer won't give you a raise that would be 50% more than what its competitors pays their pilots leads to the next logical step: what tactic do I use to get the most I can?

Your tactics, asking for unrealistic raises, in my opinion, will get me less money. I'm just stating what the better, realistic, tactic is to gain the largest pay raise I possibly can.

15% per year...I'm with you. Glad to see your expectations are growing there bud.

Carl

I'm curious, what evidence pdo you have that asking for "an unrealistic raise" will ultimately result in "less"? I'm interested in real life data, because this really seems like conjecture and emotional opinion, not fact based cause and effect.

The 9th wonder of the world is a 50% pay cut requires a 100% pay increase to get back to even.

RA and Mike Campbell laugh every day about how stupid we are.

700% for us and 3% for the lame pilots.