It reduces training churn, by which I mean guys in training which can be quite a substantial percent of the entire pilot group every year. Not only guys in training, but waiting for OE, pilots bought off trips for OE, etc.

Iow, it dis-incentivizes switching between planes which are in the same pay band.

I can be very much for things which streamline company operations. This one, I can't get on board with because it has the potential to require double digit percentage fewer pilots. And not to be oblique, but that could be anywhere from 10-30% fewer (somewhere in there) at various times.

Two new words for the day dis-incentive and oblique. "Give me underboob or give me death." What Nathan Hale really said.

Sent from my iPhone using tapatalk sitting on FTBs couch while he's flying a trip.;)

I think all the air lines were up on lower oil prices.

That being said, this rumor is very specific and has the insiders fingerprints all over it.

It will be great news if it is just management's opener and we make gains that are vastly superior to the rumor.

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No Herkflyer, your particular world-view of "surrender early and avoid the rush" is shared by very few others. Most Delta pilots are against the complete appeasement you routinely espouse.

And you stampeded to vote YES for it.

Very debatable. Lots of domestic pilots report much greater fatigue as a result.

Ridiculous and pure denial on your part. The JV's are an unmitigated disaster to pilot jobs. We've either rapidly shrunk to the allowable minimums, or rapidly shrunk below them. Unbelievable.

Nothing to do with clinging to history. Everything to do with shrinking immediately to the new lower minimum allowed by the new JV agreement. Exactly as many of us predicted would happen...despite the huge sales job performed by DALPA.

Carl

9644, will pass with flying colors. We have too many "comfortable and agreeing" individuals at this airline.

I would like to see north of that with our PS untouched and better work-rules.

TEN

Yup. DALPA has activated the old war horses and the new sleeper cells. End game is near.

Carl

Why not just take away the "fly with LCA" option in the PBS system, and dis-allow the X day formula that lets guys on WB guarantee they'll never fly?

Then.....LEAVE MY PS ALONE!

thank you!

Anyone notice that since about DEC our stock peaks around the third week of the month then dips down? Dec 30, Jan 22, Feb 24, Mar 19, Apr 24.. looks like waves, or a tide schedule.

Facts might be nice. Your problem is thinking your personal opinions are fact.

That is demonstrably false. The Delta pilot's contract doesn't lead the industry in a single section. Not one. You can look for yourself by studying the DALPA produced contract comparison. This is yet another example of you thinking that your personal opinion is fact.

See above. Your personal W2 compared to FedEx or anyone else does not equal a claim of working under the best contract of any legacy carrier.

As long as you don't have to be in conflict with management in any way.

Carl

Why should we give up any of those?