Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 1875497)

Not my post but this is what's on chitchat: The rumor du jour:

"-- Pay on a three year deal would look like ... 9%DOS, 6% on 1/1/16, 4%, 4% ...

-- Profit sharing concession would look like this ... will go from (10% below 2.5B and 20% above 2.5B) to (10% below 4.5B and 20% above 4.5B).

-- Credit on vacation and training would stay same but "pay hours" would go up ... (possibly keep vacation credit/week at 22:45 but pay as high as 35 hrs/week) ... expect the same type of deal for CQ.

-- retirement would get 1%-2% bump to stay in line with UAL and AA

-- Also considering a base stipend between $1000 and $500/month depending on where you live ... to cover parking and cost of living expenses. (example .. $1000 for NYC and $500 for ATL)

-- We did not have time to discuss sick time or pay banding or training freezes ... (not sure my buddy asked for that info)

-- My buddy got the impression that DALPA is/was "onboard" with these numbers ... So if you disagree, you better bend some reps ears!"


I'd vote No on that. We'd be paying for most of our own "raise".

Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 1875497)

Not my post but this is what's on chitchat: The rumor du jour:

"-- Pay on a three year deal would look like ... 9%DOS, 6% on 1/1/16, 4%, 4% ...

-- Profit sharing concession would look like this ... will go from (10% below 2.5B and 20% above 2.5B) to (10% below 4.5B and 20% above 4.5B).

-- Credit on vacation and training would stay same but "pay hours" would go up ... (possibly keep vacation credit/week at 22:45 but pay as high as 35 hrs/week) ... expect the same type of deal for CQ.

-- retirement would get 1%-2% bump to stay in line with UAL and AA

-- Also considering a base stipend between $1000 and $500/month depending on where you live ... to cover parking and cost of living expenses. (example .. $1000 for NYC and $500 for ATL)

-- We did not have time to discuss sick time or pay banding or training freezes ... (not sure my buddy asked for that info)

-- My buddy got the impression that DALPA is/was "onboard" with these numbers ... So if you disagree, you better bend some reps ears!"


I'd vote No on that. We'd be paying for most of our own "raise".

Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 1875497)

Not my post but this is what's on chitchat: The rumor du jour:

"-- Pay on a three year deal would look like ... 9%DOS, 6% on 1/1/16, 4%, 4% ...

-- Profit sharing concession would look like this ... will go from (10% below 2.5B and 20% above 2.5B) to (10% below 4.5B and 20% above 4.5B).

-- Credit on vacation and training would stay same but "pay hours" would go up ... (possibly keep vacation credit/week at 22:45 but pay as high as 35 hrs/week) ... expect the same type of deal for CQ.

-- retirement would get 1%-2% bump to stay in line with UAL and AA

-- Also considering a base stipend between $1000 and $500/month depending on where you live ... to cover parking and cost of living expenses. (example .. $1000 for NYC and $500 for ATL)

-- We did not have time to discuss sick time or pay banding or training freezes ... (not sure my buddy asked for that info)

-- My buddy got the impression that DALPA is/was "onboard" with these numbers ... So if you disagree, you better bend some reps ears!"


I'd vote No on that. We'd be paying for most of our own "raise".

Originally Posted by hitimefurl (Post 1875587)

That's about 25% over 3 years. We needed 18% to match American and they are two years behind us for the next contract. PS would still be 2-3 months each based on estimates using Jerry's numbers. That puts ER FO up to almost $200 an hour or so with override which was C2K Tristar pay. $230K-$260K a year with an 87 average and PS. Easy $300K plus with only a few Greenies and no busting my knots.

For the "you won't see the C2012 3/3 that would make this year around 15% I think...? I got no beef with the pay/credit compromise as long as we can make it work in PBS.

I've flown with plenty of guys that said 25% alone over three years would be okay. Especially the older ones.

Originally Posted by hitimefurl (Post 1875587)

I've flown with plenty of guys that said 25% alone over three years would be okay. Especially the older ones.

Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 1875497)

Not my post but this is what's on chitchat: The rumor du jour:

"-- Pay on a three year deal would look like ... 9%DOS, 6% on 1/1/16, 4%, 4% ...

-- Profit sharing concession would look like this ... will go from (10% below 2.5B and 20% above 2.5B) to (10% below 4.5B and 20% above 4.5B).

-- Credit on vacation and training would stay same but "pay hours" would go up ... (possibly keep vacation credit/week at 22:45 but pay as high as 35 hrs/week) ... expect the same type of deal for CQ.

-- retirement would get 1%-2% bump to stay in line with UAL and AA

-- Also considering a base stipend between $1000 and $500/month depending on where you live ... to cover parking and cost of living expenses. (example .. $1000 for NYC and $500 for ATL)

-- We did not have time to discuss sick time or pay banding or training freezes ... (not sure my buddy asked for that info)

-- My buddy got the impression that DALPA is/was "onboard" with these numbers ... So if you disagree, you better bend some reps ears!"


I'd vote No on that. We'd be paying for most of our own "raise".

Originally Posted by pilotjockey (Post 1875608)

dont like a stipend for certain bases over others since everyone can bid just about any base these days, if you dont like it you can bid out. count me as a no