Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1855932)

We have the best negotiating environment I've seen in 26yrs, yet there are those that appear as timid as when we were losing our shirts. Seriously, 0 debt in 2yrs... practically printing money...

I really don't understand the timidity... if not now, when? We should be shooting for the moon... or the lost decade truly was lost.

Let management/shareholders worry about themselves.

Let us concentrate on restoring this profession.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1855915)

It looks like the PowerPoint is no longer posted but a short summary is available.


We encourage each and every pilot to review the PowerPoint presentation by NMB Chairman Linda Puchala to the MEC in January. It is posted on the Section 6 page of the Delta MEC website. What the NMB presentation tells us is that we should expect that a traditional Section 6 negotiation using traditional strategies and techniques will likely take several years. While the process might be accelerated to some degree by limiting the number of open items and operating within the NMB- defined “zone of reasonableness,” it is apparent from this presentation and the recent experience of other pilot groups locked in lengthy mediation that this type of timeline is indeed realistic when using traditional approaches.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1855962)

The PowerPoint from the NMB never said anything of the sort. I studied every slide of it after DALPA posted it. After you were called out about it by numerous posters here, you back pedaled and said the NMB stated it in closed session. My reps said it didn't happen in closed session either. You then called my reps liars. Whatever.

Carl

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1855964)

So you are saying I made the above up? Would you like a link? Why did your reps let the above be posted.
Please feel free to post examples of the NMB acting with the speed you seem to think was possible.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1855214)

My source is the DALPA produced contract comparison Karnak. According to that document, we don't lead the industry in one single section.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1856001)

Just to make sure the epic fail by DALPA is fully understood Carl's total compensation at the merger was 178 dollars an hour as a 747 CA plus a frozen DB plan.
Today Carl's hourly compensation rate in total is around 367 an hour plus the frozen DB. The raise over 7 years is 189 dollars an hour. You have to wonder what Carl would consider a success. The above includes the DC plan and a projected 16.5% profit sharing for 2015. The final number will probably come in above 367.