Not too lazy, too disingenuous. C2012 had a number of pro-company items implement immediately and pro-pilot items delayed for months. The main reason I remember was "computer programming issues." Reality is that it was just more self-funding to make C2012 cost neutral.

Carl

Examples please?

What you call reality is just opinion unless you can show examples of how the company benefitted early while we had to wait for ours. I've already given a few examples from the implementation schedule a few posts back.

Yes, some items were not implemented immediately. That happens on both sides of the table for a variety of reasons.

Not to sound funny but how come know one is demanding an increase to our PROFIT SHARING?

TEN

Yet the 10 AM report on day one was agreed to immediately versus the previous 12PM status quo/reg/contract report, and the notification "hammer" was laid down instantly before the ink was dry.

While its easy to point to single examples either way, the trends do seem to support company relief first while waiting a bit to get our end of things more often than not.

I love the "computer programming" excuse though. Have we ever had to delay implementation of agreed upon concessions because they needed time to write code?

Has there been a recent contract comparison done and published or will that come later?

I can't remember if the last one I saw had the new AA/UA contracts.

That's an easy one. MANAGEMENT and DALPA are one and the same.

management and alpo can often be confused

I don't have the C2012 implementation schedule anymore, but maybe someone that still has it can post it. If you want to say that there weren't examples of pro-company things happening immediately and pro-pilot things taking months to "implement", knock yourself out.

See above.

Then why did you ask for examples earlier when you already knew it happened exactly as I said it did?

Carl

What a great point THAT is!

Carl

yeah, lets move 100% of our pay to the ps plan, awesome. cmon though for real, cuz thats a financially foolish idea. more money now is better than future money that might or might not be there because managment whizzed it away on bad decisions or a jihadi joe event. im almost afraid alpo would do something dumb like try to increase it but thankfully there were enough pilots who said reduce it or leave it alone so hopefully they wont try