No chance of that Timbo. None. The RLA in its current form is absolutely perfect for ALPA national because it allows ALPA national the excuse to never take any risk. ALPA national is essentially a sham insurance company. They live to collect premiums (our union dues), then do everything they can to remove any risk to them. Strikes represent cost and risk to ALPA and the RLA excuse is perfect. It's a marriage made in heaven.

Carl

 

Why does management want to reduce our profit sharing so badly??

Clearly Delta is on track to make a $4 billion dollar profit this year and $5 billion or more in 2015. IMO much more because we are getting close to an oil melt down similar to 1986. Russia and others depend on oil money and no one is going to reduce output. Just like 1986. The price will continue to fall.

Each .01 cent reduction in the price of fuel saves Delta $40 million per year.

We get 20% on profit above $2.5 billion.

And 2016??

Does anyone think Delta will not hit the $5 billion dollar debt total early?

Is the lackluster economy picking up steam? The Fed believes so.

Will Delta profits keep increasing? Pretty safe bet.

As the Fed increases interest rates in 2015 our pension obligation will begin to slowly decrease coupled with higher market returns.

Reducing profit sharing one more penny ensures cost neutral and destroys any hope of a "historic" C2015.

 

Amen. Get it done

 

And our 737 hourly rates are $210. Less than 5% of Delta pilots make the 744/777 rate. 100% of SWA captains make the 216 rate.

Couple that with every SWA passenger being flown by a SWA pilot, and you've got one hell of a contract there.

Carl

 

Now is the time to be sure. Why do you think that I--or anyone else outside of "be humble" SD for that matter--am not in favor of more money and more time off?

 

Well here's something I never thought I'd say: Tsquare, please refer to sailingfun on how to spell...

Carl

 

Fine, let's stop ignoring the main point that I've tried now three times with you. What did you do during C2K to actually USE that leverage? What specific action did you take? You've even alluded to it here.

Carl

 

What do we need to work on?


1. Scope
Definitions
Scope
Permitted Arrangement with Category A and C Operations
Permitted Arrangement with Foreign Air Carriers
Company Affiliates
General Furlough Protection
Fragmentation
Alaskan Airlines
Delta/KLM/AF/Alitalia
Hawaiian

2. Definitions

3. Compensation
Pay Tables 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
International Pay
Entry Level Pay
Profit Sharing

4. Minimum Pay and Credit
Regular Line Guarantee
Reserve Line Guarantee
Company Removal Guarantee
Rotation Guarantee
Suit-Up Pay and Credit
Miscellaneous Guarantee

5. Lodging and Expenses
Per Diem
Crew Meals
Lodging
Laundry

6. Relocation
Relocation Benefits
Forfeiture
Travel Time

7. Vacations
Earned Vacation and Vacation Bank Hours
Vacation Period Selection
Vacation Move-Up
Adjustments and Postponements
Cancellation of Vacation
Vacation Pay
Vacation Swap

8. Deadheading
Pay and Credit
Effect on Duty Rigs
Modes of Transportation
Off Rotation Deadheads

9. Miscellaneous Flying
Pay and Credit

10. Administrative Pilots

11. Training
Pay and Credit
SLI and LCA
Non SLI Instructors
Scheduling Rules
Training Opportunities

12. Hours of Service
Block Hour Limit
Time Card
Maximum Scheduled Duty Time
Flight Time Limitations
Maximum Scheduled Landings
Break-In Duty
Duty Period Average
Duty Period Minimum
Average Daily Reserve Duty Period Average
Duty Period Credit (1 for 2)
Rotation credit (1 for 3.5)
Rotation Pay and Credit Calculations
Duty-Free Periods
Full Service Bank
Co-Terminal Operations
4th and 18 Ricardo Louis
Sleep Opportunity

13. Leaves of Absence
Medical
Military
Legal Duty
Transfer
Maternity
FMLA
Death in the Immediate Family
Personal Leave

14 Sick Leave
Pay and Credit
Notification/Verification of Sickness
Medical Release
Monthly Bidding
Drug/Alcohol Rehab
International Ops
Effect on Vacation
Early Return from Known Sick Leave
Workers Compensation

15. Physical Exams
Pay and Credit

16. Crew Augmentation and International Ops
Crew Augmentation
On Board Rest Accommodations
International Deadhead
Workers Comp
Missing Pilots
Benefit Assignments
Foreign Pilot
Gus Bus
International Health Care
Crew Luggage

17 Witnesses and Representatives

18 Grievances

19 System Board of Adjustment

20 Seniority

21 Furlough and Recall

22 Filing of Vacancies
Order of Positions
PBS Staffing
Posting and Bidding of Category Vacancies
AE and VD
Surpluses and MD
Chris Davis Kick Six
Category Freeze

23 Scheduling
Timing of Scheduling Events
PBS
Line Award Process
Pilot Change Schedule
Pilot-to-Pilot Swap Board
Rotation Changes and Removal
Swap with the Pot
Personal Drop
Recovery Slip
Rotation Guarantee Recovery
Reroute
Rotation Coverage Sequence
Open Time Award > 12 Hours
Open Time Award < 12 Hours
WS
GS and GSWC
IA and IAWC
RES Pilots
YS
FSU Sucks
Reserves Required
Commuting Policy

24. General

25. Medical, Dental, Life Insurance and Other Benefits

26. Retirement and Disability

27. Union Security and Check Off

28. Duration

 

Again. You miss the important point here. We should have defined our objective as restoration and used that data point to bolster our case. At the time, they were making that kind of money... in spite of the efforts of numerous DALPA apologists to dispute it. Heck, you even disputed it today in one of your posts where you tried to cast doubts on the validity of the data by claiming it amounted to nothing more than a "sales pitch" to the AirTran pilots. And then when I call you on it, you redirect to this nonsense about staffing levels and contractual guarantees. One thing I'll say for you, Alan... you are a moving target.

And one thing you're missing with your latest redirect is the number of days the average SWA pilots were working while they were making all this extra coin. According to the SWAPA data, they were averaging 18 days off per month. 18. So now, maybe they have even more days off? I don't know. But I do know that 18 days off is pretty darn good. Now, I would assume that 18 days off number includes vacation, etc... so the average line at SWA at the time was more than 12 days. But compare that with how many days the average Delta pilot would have to work to average that kind of coin.

 

With all due respect to you, Carl, and all my fellow pilots on this forum, I could not care less how I come across or whether I have any credibility. We're all here to spend a bit of time discussing the various issues that come up in our lives, and we should all be free to say what we think.

I don't say the things I post because someone wants me to or because I'm trying to generate a certain perception of me -- it's just what I think.

Believe it or not; I really don't care.