View Poll Results: Are you "For" or "Against" the Delta TA?
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Delta TA Poll
07-01-2015 | 05:58 PM
#231
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To that I say well done gentlemen! I accept the 1.1B in additional value as the most we can get. Settled law. Done.
I just reject the concessions. I therefore propose we return 100 million dollars to management as an act of good faith, and take only 1.0B in additional value over 3 years in the form of pay only. By definition this saves them 100M regardless, even without the concessions, because the concessions were properly costed into it. Right? Right.
They can take that 100M and spend it on executive bonuses, shareholder return, aircraft cap cost reduction, fuel, one extra gate in NYC (LOL I know right) or straight to charity. 100M for BCRF, Habitat, United Way, Kaboom playgrounds, museums, theatre, WWII Honor Flights, Toys for Tots, anything they want!
That's a face saving Win-Win if I ever saw one.
Right? What possible reason could they turn that offer down for?
I just reject the concessions. I therefore propose we return 100 million dollars to management as an act of good faith, and take only 1.0B in additional value over 3 years in the form of pay only. By definition this saves them 100M regardless, even without the concessions, because the concessions were properly costed into it. Right? Right.
They can take that 100M and spend it on executive bonuses, shareholder return, aircraft cap cost reduction, fuel, one extra gate in NYC (LOL I know right) or straight to charity. 100M for BCRF, Habitat, United Way, Kaboom playgrounds, museums, theatre, WWII Honor Flights, Toys for Tots, anything they want!
That's a face saving Win-Win if I ever saw one.
Right? What possible reason could they turn that offer down for?
You know, fair and balanced.
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07-01-2015 | 06:05 PM
#232
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Voted yes. Industry-leading contract. Still no cap on profit sharing. Management has track record of doing what they say. JCBA second round resulted in less, not more. Third party who might participate in mediation would see us turning down industry-leading. Don't see the risk/reward of no adding up.
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07-01-2015 | 06:09 PM
#233
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To that I say well done gentlemen! I accept the 1.1B in additional value as the most we can get. Settled law. Done.
I just reject the concessions. I therefore propose we return 100 million dollars to management as an act of good faith, and take only 1.0B in additional value over 3 years in the form of pay only. By definition this saves them 100M regardless, even without the concessions, because the concessions were properly costed into it. Right? Right.
They can take that 100M and spend it on executive bonuses, shareholder return, aircraft cap cost reduction, fuel, one extra gate in NYC (LOL I know right) or straight to charity. 100M for BCRF, Habitat, United Way, Kaboom playgrounds, museums, theatre, WWII Honor Flights, Toys for Tots, anything they want!
That's a face saving Win-Win if I ever saw one.
Right? What possible reason could they turn that offer down for?
I just reject the concessions. I therefore propose we return 100 million dollars to management as an act of good faith, and take only 1.0B in additional value over 3 years in the form of pay only. By definition this saves them 100M regardless, even without the concessions, because the concessions were properly costed into it. Right? Right.
They can take that 100M and spend it on executive bonuses, shareholder return, aircraft cap cost reduction, fuel, one extra gate in NYC (LOL I know right) or straight to charity. 100M for BCRF, Habitat, United Way, Kaboom playgrounds, museums, theatre, WWII Honor Flights, Toys for Tots, anything they want!
That's a face saving Win-Win if I ever saw one.
Right? What possible reason could they turn that offer down for?
To the ALPAholics here: What say you? After you check in with Harwood that is.
Carl
07-01-2015 | 06:10 PM
#234
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07-06-2015 | 04:09 PM
#237
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Same for me Buzz, never a No, but this one is a a slam dunk NO. Status Quo with our huge PS is good for me. I'm convinced Delta came to us early cuz they needed relief on PS and scope and they won't let us go down that dark, scary mediation path(pun intended). I truly believe that after the dust settles(and our leaders are "reconstituted", we'll be right back at it. If not, so be it. Status quo works for me.
07-06-2015 | 07:02 PM
#238
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Same for me Buzz, never a No, but this one is a a slam dunk NO. Status Quo with our huge PS is good for me. I'm convinced Delta came to us early cuz they needed relief on PS and scope and they won't let us go down that dark, scary mediation path(pun intended). I truly believe that after the dust settles(and our leaders are "reconstituted", we'll be right back at it. If not, so be it. Status quo works for me.
Denny
07-06-2015 | 07:06 PM
#239
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From: 777B
Same for me Buzz, never a No, but this one is a a slam dunk NO. Status Quo with our huge PS is good for me. I'm convinced Delta came to us early cuz they needed relief on PS and scope and they won't let us go down that dark, scary mediation path(pun intended). I truly believe that after the dust settles(and our leaders are "reconstituted", we'll be right back at it. If not, so be it. Status quo works for me.
I believe the results would be quite eye opening. I know for a fact DALPA did not present this at the road show.
07-07-2015 | 04:08 AM
#240
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From: 777B
Ta15 is 20% over $6b
but first you have to subtract out the management employees with equity income (2400 people) before you can use $6b. RAs equity is $770m. That is one guy and that is not a small effect.
Projected profit is as high as $11b in 2017-2018.
If you have done the math, PLEASE, show your work.
Last edited by scambo1; 07-07-2015 at 04:21 AM.
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