busdriver12

The only way to stop this crap is to make it unprofitable for them. Call in sick every single time you know you need to. Do NOT let them intimidate you into doing otherwise. Make yourself feel comfortable going to the doctor getting a note for every little thing, even if at that point you are well. And while you're at the doctor's office, you might as well have them run blood tests and check out every single thing that you've been concerned about over the years. It will be an expensive visit.

Do you guys have to meet a deductible for this? Aren't doctors visits just a small copay?

Do not let intimidation work.

dragon

Why does it amaze you? They have glossed over anything and everything that can possibly be construed as a concession. They are without shame whatsoever, as long as this thing passes, they'll say anything and do anything.

SFWB

I call in sick when sick. I go to the doctor everytime--thank God I live in a small community and can get to see doctor when I have need. And I've dropped trips for personal reasons. Flight ops doesn't sign the release--I do. Make them prove we are abusing. I'm innocent until proven guilty.
SFWB

UGBSM

Obviously you are not a Deltoid. We have lousy, high deductible HSA and HRA plans. My deductible is $3,100. Thats a lot of doctor visits.

Herkflyr

There is abuse. This TA and its egregious new sick rules is not the answer, however. I also think that the abuse, while real, is being obsessed over by flight ops mgmt far beyond what is warranted.

gloopy

Wrong. You are probably going to be assumed to be not guilty for the first 14 days in a rolling 365. Depending on the timing of your illnesses, you could be sick way less than 14 days in a calendar year and still have to verify.

But in any case, once you hit day 15 in a rolling 365, you are assumed guilty until you can prove your innocence to a potentially hostile company partisan third party. Period. End of sentence.

If its for a cut and dry no brainer illness with easily verifiable symptoms, assuming you can get them verified while they are still verifiable (might have to go to the ER or summon a house call, whatever the cost, at YOUR expense) you're probably still OK.

But if it was a grey area illness where you don't have hard, scientific symtoms that can be measured and directly observed, best case you won't get paid and worst case you might lose your career.

For an 8% raise.

Otters

And that and much of other language in this TA sums up what you just said. Staffing and hiring. Huge benefit to the company. I suspect a big reduction or ease in hiring. Well said

BenderRodriguez

How much do you put into your HSA? That's what it is for ya know.

sailingfun

We heard all the same about contract 2012. All those changes you are talking about have been costed out at under 200 jobs. Remember there are Changes that add jobs also.
Keep in mind that the costed job loss does not include the scope changes. The 1.81 ratio is huge and with the fleet plans could require 70 to 90 more airframes. That's a lot of hiring that has to start soon.

sailingfun

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