Holy Cr**. I already voted no, but I'm thinking this could be a key idea for all the yes/maybe voters to take another look.

 

Well... 0/3/3/3. I agree with your premise, but the DOS 8% wouldn't happen if the TA is voted down.

I'm on record as a NO vote, and that 8% isn't anywhere close to being "worth it"--just doing my best to get & disseminate accurate information.

 

I have explained it on theonlineroadshow.com The slides for the power point are below the presentation.

The leverage actually increases with C2012 because they can try to mitigate 3.B.4. but that means nobody at DELTA gets a raise. The flight attendants are due to file for representation again around the amendable date so that could get interesting. 20,000 FAs is 30% of the domestic non-pilot workforce. Labor difficulty with two groups come 1/1/2016. Park me we'll talk later.

3.B.4. is powerful, that's why they want the change. If 3.B.4. and 3.I. remain unchanged, we have leverage in every Sect. 6 negotiation. We can't commingle PS and rates in 3.B.4. or it looses it's teeth. Both sections work independently, but together they are very powerful. The 3.I. PTIX calculation in the TA also weakens their effectiveness.

Check out the site. Remember FAs at 20,250 and pilots at 12,700. 80,000 domestic employees - 12,700 pilots = 67,300 non-pilot domestic employees. 20,250 FAs are 30% of 67,300 non-pilot domestic employees. The 3.B.4. trigger is 30% of non-pilot domestic employees.

Of course management said they wouldn't pay 3.B.4. What else are they going to say? You have a lever and here's how to use it. Strategic planning???

 

I see more and more of you are getting onboard with saving our management team from the onerous costs of this ta...the 'richest' in delta pilot history.

Its simply outrageous that there are pilots in this group that are so committed to the ratification of an agreement that is going to confront our management with insurmountable difficulty.

You can do the professional thing. The right thing. The moral thing.

Or, you can vote 'yes'......you selfish tools.

 

I missed this tidbit...! Are you talking about the MEC Contrails #23, June 25th, "Prospects in Profit Sharing"? I'm frankly getting lost in that (deliberately?) opaquely-worded article--can you be more specific, please?

 

You should read 3 B.5 while you're there.

It might be important, you know, later.

 

If the company grants next years general raise on 31 Dec 15 instead of 1 APR 16 there would be no 3b4 raise next year. If the following year they paid a bonus instead of a raise there would be no 3b4 in 2017 either.

 

Ask you reps. It is common knowledge.

I'm sure Heiko on chitchat can answer 3.B.4 questions.

 

The non pilot Delta employees will get 2 raises in 2016. One regular raise and another for the reduced profit sharing exactly like C2012.

 

That's not correct. If they do it like contract 2012 they will grant the extra raise 1 JUL 15 or right now. There would normally then be a standard raise on 1 APR 16. They can move that up to 31 Dec 15 or 4 months early and eliminate any 3B4 for pilots in 2016. They could grant a bonus instead of a raise and eliminate 3B4 in any year they choose. 1 bonus in 17 would keep us under current rates until 18 which is when we should be nearing end game on the contract.