Something you will never hear someone say-
07-10-2015 | 01:48 PM
#11
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I voted yes after reading the TA in its entirety several times, before the MEC sales job and before any RA fear mongering. The sick leave, JV provisions, and LCA trip concessions were not sufficiently onerous IMO to vote no, and I was content with the pay picture - - even with the hit to profit sharing. Obviously I am in a distinct minority.
Anyway, the ship has sailed and I will not look back. I 100% hope that my opinions are proven wrong in the course of future events. I agree wholeheartedly that the system and the process worked very well with this TA. It is beyond apparent that our MEC and negotiators did not properly represent the will of the majority.
Anyway, the ship has sailed and I will not look back. I 100% hope that my opinions are proven wrong in the course of future events. I agree wholeheartedly that the system and the process worked very well with this TA. It is beyond apparent that our MEC and negotiators did not properly represent the will of the majority.
Carl
07-10-2015 | 02:09 PM
#13
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From: LAX ERA
This is not what we need now
This victory has the potential to spin out of control and end up with factions versus factions.
"I want more pay versus I want my OE trips back"
"Alpa versus DPA"
'No' voters on a witch hunt to humiliate Yes voters.
The Goal here is a world class contract while the environment is ripe to do it. Not to start tearing eachother apart.
This victory has the potential to spin out of control and end up with factions versus factions.
"I want more pay versus I want my OE trips back"
"Alpa versus DPA"
'No' voters on a witch hunt to humiliate Yes voters.
The Goal here is a world class contract while the environment is ripe to do it. Not to start tearing eachother apart.
War story time. When NWA was on strike, I'm sure there were guys who didn't agree with going out. But, they did the walk of the living dead on the picket line with a smile on their faces (on break anyway).
We're all in this together......NO WITCH HUNTS, from either side.
OK , maybe at the MEC
Ferd
07-10-2015 | 02:17 PM
#14
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From: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
Agreed, im not interested at this point in who voted what since we have to look forward. We have A LOT of work to do. The Delta Pilots are in a surplus budget situation. Lets vote in some new reps (Im going to throw my name in the hat) and lets pass a resolution to spend our budget surplus on the best labor firm in America and the best non-ALPA negotiators they have to offer to sit alongside with us. Giddy up!
07-10-2015 | 03:25 PM
#15
Line Holder
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From: 73NA
Hey, Spence. This is Jerry Dessert. Well-said, my old friend. I was a strong "no" voter, but I would never characterize a yes voter as a "goober". I trust my fellow pilots and respect opinions, whether or not I agree with them. Good luck to us all. I'm all for cleaning house at DALPA, but brow-beating our fellow line pilots is counter-productive.
Besides, the no vote is only mile marker 1 on a long road to victory!
Besides, the no vote is only mile marker 1 on a long road to victory!
07-10-2015 | 03:54 PM
#16
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From: Light Chop
I'm not in favor of the dpa, I think if one wants to toss out the union you just got handed an enormous gift with a landslide no vote AND you have a list of several reps that stuck their necks out and said vote no.
Replace Donatelli with one of those for starters and you may just achieve the overhaul you seek.
Replace Donatelli with one of those for starters and you may just achieve the overhaul you seek.
07-10-2015 | 04:29 PM
#17
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From: DAL A320 CA
Congratulations to the majority. I respect your view and even though I voted yes, we're all in this together. I'm glad that over 97% voted their conscience..now we have to respect their view and move forward.
CG Out
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07-10-2015 | 04:47 PM
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Well said.....
War story time. When NWA was on strike, I'm sure there were guys who didn't agree with going out. But, they did the walk of the living dead on the picket line with a smile on their faces (on break anyway).
We're all in this together......NO WITCH HUNTS, from either side.
OK , maybe at the MEC
Ferd
War story time. When NWA was on strike, I'm sure there were guys who didn't agree with going out. But, they did the walk of the living dead on the picket line with a smile on their faces (on break anyway).
We're all in this together......NO WITCH HUNTS, from either side.
OK , maybe at the MEC
Ferd
07-10-2015 | 05:00 PM
#19
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I voted yes after reading the TA in its entirety several times, before the MEC sales job and before any RA fear mongering. The sick leave, JV provisions, and LCA trip concessions were not sufficiently onerous IMO to vote no, and I was content with the pay picture - - even with the hit to profit sharing. Obviously I am in a distinct minority.
Anyway, the ship has sailed and I will not look back. I 100% hope that my opinions are proven wrong in the course of future events. I agree wholeheartedly that the system and the process worked very well with this TA. It is beyond apparent that our MEC and negotiators did not properly represent the will of the majority.
Anyway, the ship has sailed and I will not look back. I 100% hope that my opinions are proven wrong in the course of future events. I agree wholeheartedly that the system and the process worked very well with this TA. It is beyond apparent that our MEC and negotiators did not properly represent the will of the majority.
07-10-2015 | 05:38 PM
#20
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This is not what we need now
This victory has the potential to spin out of control and end up with factions versus factions.
"I want more pay versus I want my OE trips back"
"Alpa versus DPA"
'No' voters on a witch hunt to humiliate Yes voters.
The Goal here is a world class contract while the environment is ripe to do it. Not to start tearing eachother apart.
This victory has the potential to spin out of control and end up with factions versus factions.
"I want more pay versus I want my OE trips back"
"Alpa versus DPA"
'No' voters on a witch hunt to humiliate Yes voters.
The Goal here is a world class contract while the environment is ripe to do it. Not to start tearing eachother apart.
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