Glad to hear that Ghilis! If you run, I'll personally finance your 3 drinks per meeting

 

It is very broke. DALPA has been in Transmit only mode for years.

 

Yes, I agree that this TA was ill-conceived and a waste of money...

"Way too early, and way off target", I say.

But this happens in the RLA negotiating process all the time. Just the first time here at Delta is all. No need to panic. Let's take our time before we start changing all the rules or talking about an independent union.

 

Guys like Harwood have been playing God behind the scenes much longer than this contract debacle. Management got cocky after pushing C2012 through and decided to go for the long ball (with the help of their special teams). The membership woke up and threw the spotlight on those characters and is just now realizing the system has cracks.

Splinter Cell Moak training camps from the early 2000's were taught how to exploit the weaknesses within the DALPA system. Those weaknesses are finally being talked about. Let's address those going forward.

 

A lot of excellent ideas there. Thanks for that.

 

Agree with all MtEverest has stated and proposed. The "shadow MEC"/entrenched/lifers need to be removed and abolished from further influence beyond their single vote.

 

Thats about right. The union overreached in some ways, just like the company.

 

Malone was chairman in the early 2000s, not Moak.

John Malone's opinion on this TA was probably the one I personally valued the most, BTW.

 

Im going to play devil's advocate for a sec about ALPA engagement and one sided communication (which they took to an embarrassing new low). The key to good communication is participation to be able to share ideas and have easy access to information. Im basing this off my previous union work but anytime we held meetings, whether they were at a specific location or online webinars, we would get DISMAL attendance, like maybe 5 to 10 percent of the pilots if we were lucky.

So the question is, with a huge number of commuters, and a pilot group that is focused on family and other commitments, how do you actually promote bottom up communication? This is my main concern because I want us moving forward to be a union of the pilots, for the pilots, and by the pilots. But how do we get participation up so that communication flows both ways?

 

That's really not an issue ghilis. Any rep with the slightest hint of comprehension skills knows what the pilots want. They knew it before the survey was taken. The problem here was 11 reps that made a deal with the devil and thought they could get away with a cram down that was a full deviation from pilot demands. It would have worked were it not for social media.

Low meeting participation rates are meaningless. Any good rep with his/her heart in the right place is all you need.

Carl