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11-03-2015 | 03:00 AM
#241
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Road construction signholder
I stopped reading your post right there. If the COMPANY had a shred of integrity we'd have had restoration before 6 BILLION dollar buy backs & dividends. If the Company had a shred of integrity they wouldn't want us to take a PS cut while they change the formula to enrich themselves (yet again), if the Company had a shred of integrity they would've given the other employees pay raises 1/1/16 and the integrity list goes on and on.
I'll provide my services with the same level of integrity the company shows me, nothing more nothing less. It's a two way street.
Don't try and guilt trip someone to your point of view with integrity.
The Integrity backpack is DOA.
I'll provide my services with the same level of integrity the company shows me, nothing more nothing less. It's a two way street.
Don't try and guilt trip someone to your point of view with integrity.
The Integrity backpack is DOA.
11-03-2015 | 03:28 AM
#242
Otto
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
11-03-2015 | 03:39 AM
#243
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,562
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From: Road construction signholder
But if you think I am going to high - five or "boo yah!" dudes who say "I was furloughed so now I call in sick one a quarter whether I need to or not" or "I screwed up my vacation bids so I'll just call in sick instead" or "I got that captains eye disease last week: I just couldn't see coming to work" (these are real conversations from real pilots) then think again.
Then these same dudes will rant about how much more they deserve to be paid. Apparently that doesn't bother you as much as it does me.
11-03-2015 | 03:39 AM
#244
Straight QOL, homie
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,202
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Your statement is the equivalent of brining a game of monopoly to a gun fight and expecting to win.
That mindset is what management manipulates.
11-03-2015 | 03:43 AM
#245
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,562
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From: Road construction signholder
No, your "I hate everything and everybody, and not only always vote no but even find it fun and DON'T WANT a TA worth voting for" mentality that gets us nowhere. Believe it or not at some point, sometime somewhere we will reach a decent TA. NA 15 wasn't it and we were right to reject it. But I haven't seen or heard anything from you suggesting you have a clue as to how to get from here to there...if you even want to.
11-03-2015 | 04:28 AM
#246
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Joined: Jun 2015
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Your philosophical "high road" keeps getting us cost of living adjustments paid for with ps reductions. TA12 was cost neutral and TA15 was probably going to end up cost neutral as well. I'm hardly keeping up with inflation but the execs are enriching several generations of their own. They value themselves and their families future. Sorry pal, but integrity doesn't pay bills. And the furloughed guy you speak of....he already knows how " valued" he is to management.
11-03-2015 | 04:39 AM
#247
Straight QOL, homie
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,202
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
No, your "I hate everything and everybody, and not only always vote no but even find it fun and DON'T WANT a TA worth voting for" mentality that gets us nowhere. Believe it or not at some point, sometime somewhere we will reach a decent TA. NA 15 wasn't it and we were right to reject it. But I haven't seen or heard anything from you suggesting you have a clue as to how to get from here to there...if you even want to.
And it's true. I'll vote "no" for any QOL concession.
11-03-2015 | 04:44 AM
#248
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Road construction signholder
Feel free to vote no indefinitely if any TA lacks merit. I would expect nothing less. Just have an idea of what you might vote for.
11-03-2015 | 05:14 AM
#249
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Joined: May 2015
Posts: 2,960
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From: Power top
Mission oriented boy scout becomes airline pilot. MBA's eat you guys for breakfast while you're willing to give away the store to help fix his "problems". An industrial labor relations specialist wildest dream!
11-03-2015 | 05:52 AM
#250
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I stopped reading your post right there. If the COMPANY had a shred of integrity we'd have had restoration before 6 BILLION dollar buy backs & dividends. If the Company had a shred of integrity they wouldn't want us to take a PS cut while they change the formula to enrich themselves (yet again), if the Company had a shred of integrity they would've given the other employees pay raises 1/1/16 and the integrity list goes on and on.
I'll provide my services with the same level of integrity the company shows me, nothing more nothing less. It's a two way street.
Don't try and guilt trip someone to your point of view with integrity.
The Integrity backpack is DOA.
I'll provide my services with the same level of integrity the company shows me, nothing more nothing less. It's a two way street.
Don't try and guilt trip someone to your point of view with integrity.
The Integrity backpack is DOA.
There was an expectation that our decade of sacrifice would be rewarded when our herculean efforts helped turn the company around. They have made it crystal clear that efforts of everyone EXCEPT the pilot group will be rewarded.
I don't think there is any sacrifice to integrity to work within the guidelines of the contract. The company has been very clear in that regard. Management is performing their fiduciary duty to shareholders by extracting every penny of value they can within the contract. As providers for our families or just for ourselves and multiple ex-wives, we have a similar fiduciary duty. Every pilot should extract every penny of value out of our negotiated contract.
