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Old 11-05-2015 | 05:32 AM
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Delta's October numbers were astounding. IMO we will easily see 2016 profit sharing in excess of 29%.

Please press your reps for an estimate based on a PTIX of $8-$10 billion.

Whatever your minimum hourly increase, you can easily add 8%.

Time is on our side.
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Old 11-05-2015 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Delta's October numbers were astounding. IMO we will easily see 2016 profit sharing in excess of 29%.

Please press your reps for an estimate based on a PTIX of $8-$10 billion.

Whatever your minimum hourly increase, you can easily add 8%.

Time is on our side.
Ratings agencies are projecting a sustained $9-10 billion going forward starting in 2016. With no change to PTIX formula 30% looks achievable with the added profits from new JVs and equity returns. Rough math says $11.9B gets you there.

Momentum is building for 2016. The PRASM softness is reversing.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3649...-bouncing-back

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Old 11-05-2015 | 09:33 AM
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And THAT'S why Richard wants to change the way PS is calculated, AND increase the 20% payout threshold.

As I've said many times before, he can keep 100% of my profit sharing, right after he returns 100% of my pay and retirement money to pre-bankruptcy levels adjusted for inflation.

Until then, FU, PM!
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Mr B.......hence my suggestion we change PS to PENSION SUBSIDY.

Don't forget the 15% on top.
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Old 11-05-2015 | 10:08 AM
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Time is absolutely on our side.

No concessions, no givebacks.

It's time to make hay while the sun shines.
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Old 11-05-2015 | 01:37 PM
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Things that make you go hmmm...

http://seekingalpha.com/news/2902516...upo-aeromexico

Delta owns 20% of AeroMexico. AeroMexico is expanding international capacity while Delta is shrinking it. Profit sharing is the only way pilots make money as this business model is expanded.
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Things that make you go hmmm...

International capacity up 15% at Grupo Aeromexico - Grupo Aeromexico SAB DE CV (OTCMKTS:GRPAF) | Seeking Alpha

Delta owns 20% of AeroMexico. AeroMexico is expanding international capacity while Delta is shrinking it. Profit sharing is the only way pilots make money as this business model is expanded.

Sad, but very very true!!!
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Originally Posted by Timbo
And THAT'S why Richard wants to change the way PS is calculated, AND increase the 20% payout threshold.

As I've said many times before, he can keep 100% of my profit sharing, right after he returns 100% of my pay and retirement money to pre-bankruptcy levels adjusted for inflation.

Until then, FU, PM!
This!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Mr B.......hence my suggestion we change PS to PENSION SUBSIDY.

Don't forget the 15% on top.
Pension Subsidy.....I like that. Finally we are calling it exactly what it is!
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Old 11-06-2015 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Delta's October numbers were astounding. IMO we will easily see 2016 profit sharing in excess of 29%.

Please press your reps for an estimate based on a PTIX of $8-$10 billion.

Whatever your minimum hourly increase, you can easily add 8%.

Time is on our side.
Any idea what the PS would have been using the Reduced numbers in the TA? I realize no changes took place until 2017, so 2016 is going to be big no matter what. So if the profit remains the same throughout 2016 & we agree to a new TA with the same PS trade they were asking for, what would the 2/17 % be vs w/out a TA?
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