Checklists at Delta
11-19-2015 | 06:08 PM
#51
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I agree with all of the above, we get a lot of paper printing out on the taxi out and one of the two pilots (the F/O usually) has to go head's down to either enter or verify everything in the FMS, then he's got a rather long taxi and T/O checklist to run, and part of that check is the Captain has to verify everything in the FMS and on the paper print out, so he's got to go head's down too. A simple departure runway change is a mess, because now both have to do it all over again, while running the 'Runway Change Checklist'.
I was not at all in favor of doing all this data loading while taxiing, but as you said, some cubicle pilot/bean counter came up with it as a way to help our On Time Departure numbers go up.
Our FOQUA data has shown there have been guys trying to take off with the flaps up, or in the wrong position, and I believe it is mostly due to this new procedure of loading the data while taxiing.
As part of my departure brief at the gate (WARTS for the Delta guys) I always include the 'Threat' of being distracted by all the crap coming off the printer at the last minute, and going heads down to load it and verify it.
I say, "If we get a runway change, or new AWABS, we will pull over and set the parking brake while we sort it all out.".
We are getting paid by the minute, I'm in no hurry to try to take off and make the next Safety Bulletin headlines.
I was not at all in favor of doing all this data loading while taxiing, but as you said, some cubicle pilot/bean counter came up with it as a way to help our On Time Departure numbers go up.
Our FOQUA data has shown there have been guys trying to take off with the flaps up, or in the wrong position, and I believe it is mostly due to this new procedure of loading the data while taxiing.
As part of my departure brief at the gate (WARTS for the Delta guys) I always include the 'Threat' of being distracted by all the crap coming off the printer at the last minute, and going heads down to load it and verify it.
I say, "If we get a runway change, or new AWABS, we will pull over and set the parking brake while we sort it all out.".
We are getting paid by the minute, I'm in no hurry to try to take off and make the next Safety Bulletin headlines.
11-19-2015 | 06:11 PM
#52
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USAir has been pushing Flaps 3 for years on the Airbus. They say it lowers the risk of tail strikes. You can land at 3 or Full, but if you whack the tail and you landed Flaps Full, I can guarantee you'll making a trip to the big brown desk.
Having said that, the 321 lands better with Flaps 3.
Post merger, the company said our preferred Flap Setting for the 757/767 is 25. Boeing says the risk of a tail strike is higher at 25.
Having said that, the 321 lands better with Flaps 3.
Post merger, the company said our preferred Flap Setting for the 757/767 is 25. Boeing says the risk of a tail strike is higher at 25.
11-20-2015 | 01:56 AM
#53
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
BUT, as I said before, we DO get paid by the minute!
11-20-2015 | 02:21 AM
#54
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From: Light Chop
11-20-2015 | 02:21 AM
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11-20-2015 | 02:41 AM
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The other downside of the auto uplink is (for example) when you need nadp1 and it automatically uploads, it begins to remove that load process from your thought process.
I am actually a fan of thinking and knowing what goes on behind the curtain...it allows me to break a negative chain of events.
However, i dont understand why we get the wait at the gate for wdr on the D-7 sometimes. It seems like an irrelevant delay.
11-20-2015 | 03:43 AM
#58
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The entire time we flew the bus with flaps full we did not have any issues with tail strikes, their was 1 issue out in DEN that was due from too much back stick input and leaving the thrust on to long. It would make sense that the 321 is more sensitive to a tail strike.
11-20-2015 | 04:18 AM
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