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11-23-2015 | 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoop

What base and equipment?

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I'm NYC 7ER. The LCAs I flew with were based in ATL, SEA, and NYC.

11-23-2015 | 07:13 AM

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You're absolutely correct, Horrido. I think he was just crunching numbers based on the rumor. $217.52 X 13%= $245.80.

Any rumor about work rule concessions to get that raise? Just curious. I haven't been following the happenings at UAL and had no idea you guys were even negotiating. This is a mid contract bump right? Management must want something if they're willing to give you guys a nice bump like that.

No concessions there were 5 items discussed:

1. Pay rumored to be 16% but not sure how.

2. Fatigue Risk Management System (FRMS) no details given but this is what the company wanted and needed and is what drove this early negotiation. So I assume we made the process to get waivers easier.

3. LOA 25 - This restricted Recalls to a lesser longevity for pay. Rumor it has been rescinded and recalls will be made whole.

4. MOU 22 - add pay for extending up to 117 max. We had this company couldn't play by the rules so we rescinded it. Now its back and is hard language. Automatic add pay once you are preferred an extension.

5. Reserve assignment changes - It is not certain whether this was asked for by the company or ALPA. It is a weak section riddled with holes that need to be plugged. Rumor has it no changes were negotiated.

All of this was supposed to trigger an order for 100 Seat Aircraft. Company needs one on property to add more 76 seaters. Rumor is there was no agreement reached so scope stays the same.

11-23-2015 | 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

Same thing goes for management's recent trick of putting line check airmen on "office duty" for the month and then assigning line checks and IOEs from open time in order to avoid buying off first officers.

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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO

Is this rumor or verified? I could see them putting some LCA's on office duty for admin tasks but not too many.

Check,

I've noticed a "change" in LCA awarded trips also. Haven't been able to say with 100% certainty yet what the company is doing, but they most definitely have changed the method in which they assign LCA to OE/TOE trips who are paired with regular line-holding FO's.

Something "fishy" is going on with the N/A2015 "wants" of the company and feel like while we're watching the left-hand, the company is giving us a "rope-a-dope" with their right!