UAL Deal Effect On 3B4
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Departures from long established "past practice" is one of the things that usually is found to violate status quo.
Same thing goes for management's recent trick of putting line check airmen on "office duty" for the month and then assigning line checks and IOEs from open time in order to avoid buying off first officers.
We should challenge both of those changes to the status quo.
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We shouldn't get our knickers in a twist about all of this. While we in the "Delta Family", long term employees, know what the family really is, the public's perception IS different and important.
Our management takes great stock in JD Power, and all the awards scribbled on the side of our airplanes. We have the ultimate the control of that perception. At some point in time, we'll make that control well known if necessary.
Until then, enjoy a better contract than the TA, the profit sharing checks and build unity.
Our management takes great stock in JD Power, and all the awards scribbled on the side of our airplanes. We have the ultimate the control of that perception. At some point in time, we'll make that control well known if necessary.
Until then, enjoy a better contract than the TA, the profit sharing checks and build unity.
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We might have a good shot at winning.
Departures from long established "past practice" is one of the things that usually is found to violate status quo.
Same thing goes for management's recent trick of putting line check airmen on "office duty" for the month and then assigning line checks and IOEs from open time in order to avoid buying off first officers.
We should challenge both of those changes to the status quo.
Departures from long established "past practice" is one of the things that usually is found to violate status quo.
Same thing goes for management's recent trick of putting line check airmen on "office duty" for the month and then assigning line checks and IOEs from open time in order to avoid buying off first officers.
We should challenge both of those changes to the status quo.
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We shouldn't get our knickers in a twist about all of this. While we in the "Delta Family", long term employees, know what the family really is, the public's perception IS different and important.
Our management takes great stock in JD Power, and all the awards scribbled on the side of our airplanes. We have the ultimate the control of that perception. At some point in time, we'll make that control well known if necessary.
Until then, enjoy a better contract than the TA, the profit sharing checks and build unity.
Our management takes great stock in JD Power, and all the awards scribbled on the side of our airplanes. We have the ultimate the control of that perception. At some point in time, we'll make that control well known if necessary.
Until then, enjoy a better contract than the TA, the profit sharing checks and build unity.
It's contract time...we should not be signing LOAs and we should make a stink out of the above situation. It's clear managements timing on the non cons raise was to screw with us and out of the me too clause. We should file a grievance.
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I think I must be missing something here, but how does giving a raise to non-contract employees allow the company to circumnavigate 3B4?
The way I understand it.....The upcoming raise is for our non-contract employees will inversely reduce the profit sharing payout for the pilots as the other groups will now have a larger piece and the timing of the raise in December won't trigger 3B4 this year, but how does a bonus affect us from coming up to new industry standard rates (AMR/UA) in the next year?
Is it a one or another scenario?
Basically if a set percentage raise threshold for our own non-contract employee groups is triggered, then a reassessment of pilot compensation occurs?
OR
Once industry standard rates rise at other legacy carriers, does 3B4 trigger a reassessment of pilot compensation?
Essentially, will our rate reset from our non-contract employee groups supersede a rate reset from industry standard rates?
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LCA's are bidding reserve and the planners are buying trips for them. Primo trips too. I think they can make more money flying on their X days as well. Can't confirm that. In any event, management is changing the way their management pilots are bidding.
Change in the status quo?
Change in the status quo?
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