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Old 04-03-2016 | 04:29 PM
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I'm on reserve and today the company decided to re-route me into my day off. Their only punishment for screwing me and my day off, straight pay.

It seems to me that involuntarily re-routing pilots into their day off should have stronger ramifications than straight pay. Currently we have an incentive program for the company to screw pilots into a re-route scenario rather than cover the trip via GS.

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Old 04-03-2016 | 07:31 PM
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Was it straight pay added to the reserve guarantee? Also did you get a PB day? Just curious cause I almost had this happen
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Old 04-04-2016 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
Was it straight pay added to the reserve guarantee? Also did you get a PB day? Just curious cause I almost had this happen
The straight pay is above guarantee but it's not a normal payback day like a GS. A GS payback day is block in time plus 9.5 hours. So basically you get a day off back. A re-route payback day is just block in time. Half a day off back.

The way I see it, if the company is going to violate your days off, they should have to pay triple for it. There should be consequences that prohibit them from doing it and reward the pilots who gets screwed by it.

Our current system rewards crew Scheds for re-route into days off.

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Old 04-04-2016 | 12:34 AM
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Prepare for this to become more and more common as the shortage crunch continues.
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Old 04-04-2016 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Prepare for this to become more and more common as the shortage crunch continues.
Yep. I've been saying that for a while and few seem to listen. I tend to view days off as mine, call me crazy. I hear a lot of guys really excited about the potential GS's given the staffing situation. Careful what you wish for.
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Old 04-04-2016 | 04:24 AM
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They are creatively rerouting line holders as well as reservists with no regard for the contract. I've had 3 in the last month and they tried to not pay me for all 3. The 1st they were legal to not pay extra, the 2nd one I challenged earned me and the captain 2 hours of straight pay, and the 3rd I challenged earned me over 8 hours of reroute pay. Be a squeaky wheel and don't accept when they violate the contract. The more they violate the contract and get away with it, the more they will violate the contract.

edit: btw, just to clarify all 3 of my reroutes were legal. They just tried to screw me out of pay while doing it. I've never been in your position cap'n but it sounds fishy. I'd definitely follow-up if I were you. My gut says you should at least get the same kind of PB you'd get if you were GSing on an XX day.
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Old 04-04-2016 | 04:50 AM
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Been watching green slips go out like crazy in DTW 320 b the last month. They gave out 9 two days ago. Got 3 automated calls from scheduling in the last day about inverse assignments. ( 10pm,2am,and 550 am. ) NYC320b only has 1 reserve the entire month!! Looks like the staffing concessions we didn't give them in na15 are catching up to them😳
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Old 04-04-2016 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
I've never been in your position cap'n but it sounds fishy. I'd definitely follow-up if I were you. My gut says you should at least get the same kind of PB you'd get if you were GSing on an XX day.
I'm going to check it when I block in and see what they try to do. Hopefully you are right and the payback is block in + 9.5.
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Old 04-04-2016 | 05:55 AM
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they're just hoping that not everyone knows their contract. They've been busted pulling this bs for years. They dont care because if 1 out of 4 guys actually calls them on it than they're still 75% ahead on the payouts...

Know your contract and call them out everytime! this crap is going to only get worse...
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Old 04-04-2016 | 06:27 AM
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I had five reroutes on my last trip. It was a 4 day and after the first out and back, not one leg or layover was as originally scheduled. I got back on the original time and with the original captain. It is my understanding that that is legal and not eligible for reroute pay since I was not extended. My trip pay did go up for the added time blocked. Is that all they are responsible for?
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