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hockeypilot44 06-05-2016 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2139975)
How do you figure that the 14.5% is a huge pay increase?

Along with a 14.5% increase to my base hourly pay (not my total salary) my profit sharing check will be in the neighborhood of 9-12% smaller than yours (you will get 28-30% whereas I will get 16-19%), F/A staffing has been reduced on the 777 by 1-2 positions, our monthly shared rewards are now harder to get, we lost our $500 referral bonus, our STD insurance premium went up over 20%, our medical insurance rates have gone up in some cases by double digit percentages, AND our workspace has been eroded (think A319-320-321-757).

So tell me again how that 14.5% increase to my base hourly pay is a "huge pay increase"?

I agree. Changing the monthly shared rewards was bad managing. They set the goals, we started making them consistently. They then change the rules because they decided it was too easy. If I was managing, I would have just added harder shared rewards goals to the ones we already had. The new goals would have paid on top of the old goals. Changing the rules wasn't right and is one of many things this company has done to show how little the employees mean to our management.

notEnuf 06-05-2016 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2140003)
All very good points.

The reality is that the way we get more leverage back is with statuatory changes to the RLA.

1. We must enact a process for employees covered by the RLA to file an unfair labor practice with the NLRB. Yes, the NLRB. Why? Because they already have administrative law judges and have quasi-judiciary powers. All things the NMB does not have. This would protect more employees from management retaliation AND union member from unions who choose not to represent their members fairly.

2. The addition of "concerted activity" to the list of protected activities by employees covered by the RLA just as the NLRA has. This would decrease fear among employees for retaliation for speaking out on social media for example.

3. Automatic impasse declared 18 months after the amendable date of a contract and mandatory arbitration 18 months after the first day of negotiations for 1st contract. If you can't figure out a contract after 18 months then you're at an impasse.

If only we had a political action committee to fight for governments to not intervene in the free market. :rolleyes:

cni187 06-05-2016 05:24 AM

https://www.thestreet.com/story/1122...-to-judge.html

Anyone remember this? This is why you don't try and slow down the operation. Everything is monitored and reported out of the airplane.

notEnuf 06-05-2016 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2140052)
https://www.thestreet.com/story/1122...-to-judge.html

Anyone remember this? This is why you don't try and slow down the operation. Everything is monitored and reported out of the airplane.

Received the duty officer log today.

It said.

The court standards make it extremely difficult to obtain court jurisdiction of alleged changes to a collective bargaining agreement. Only in the very rare circumstance where management lacks even an “arguable basis” to justify such a change in the language of the existing agreement or past practice, can a court determine it to be a “major” dispute and a status quo violation over which it has the power to enjoin.

This must be the standard applied to both sides, right?

Erdude32 06-05-2016 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2140052)
https://www.thestreet.com/story/1122...-to-judge.html

Anyone remember this? This is why you don't try and slow down the operation. Everything is monitored and reported out of the airplane.

Oh my!!! The sky is falling, I'm soooo afraid of the big bad judge! Unionists need to grow a set of balls and restack the deck in our favor. We could learn a thing or two from the French farmers & NYC sanitation workers. At what point are we going to take back our profession???

The gross amount of Corperate greed and lack of integrity is astounding and they have us collectively cowering in a corner.

KnotSoFast 06-05-2016 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2139975)
How do you figure that the 14.5% is a huge pay increase?

Along with a 14.5% increase to my base hourly pay (not my total salary) my profit sharing check will be in the neighborhood of 9-12% smaller than yours (you will get 28-30% whereas I will get 16-19%), F/A staffing has been reduced on the 777 by 1-2 positions, our monthly shared rewards are now harder to get, we lost our $500 referral bonus, our STD insurance premium went up over 20%, our medical insurance rates have gone up in some cases by double digit percentages, AND our workspace has been eroded (think A319-320-321-757)



You have STD insurance?? I could have used that last year on those Manila layovers.
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DashTrash 06-05-2016 05:53 AM

Unless there is a significant change in how Presidential Administrations do business, no pilot who are part of UAL, AMR, DAL, or SWA will ever be released for self help. It would have an incredibly negative impact on our economy and global economies. Too much money is funneled through our airlines.

Hank Kingsley 06-05-2016 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 2140064)
Unless there is a significant change in how Presidential Administrations do business, no pilot who are part of UAL, AMR, DAL, or SWA will ever be released for self help. It would have an incredibly negative impact on our economy and global economies. Too much money is funneled through our airlines.

Don't be a Debbie Downer, there is an election coming. Anything is possible.

notEnuf 06-05-2016 07:33 AM

There's an alternate thought that with the now mature industry an expedited release leads to a quicker resolution. The theory is to let us have it out and either an overwhelming successful strike or a feeble one will create an environment to get a deal done sooner. Kinda like any other "normal" industry.

svergin 06-05-2016 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 2139975)
..our STD insurance premium went up over 20%..

You have insurance for STDs? Does it cover the Flight Attendant that gave it to you as well?


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