Virtual Basing
06-18-2016 | 07:22 AM
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06-18-2016 | 10:05 AM
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I think I am more open minded about this than most but if it was not 100% subject to unilateral cancellation by DALPA at any time than I would be against it.
You say it never works out that way - Delta Pilots never voted No before. As far as an AE that no one likes could you please expand how that would work with accelerating retirements.
I think its pretty obvious after the last TA debacle that the company does not make AE/Fleet decisions based on spite but rather on what would make DAL the most money.
06-18-2016 | 10:36 AM
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That is interesting. I could list perhaps a dozen things that benefit only a few individuals, that if changed would be 'automatic no' votes. How is this any different?
06-18-2016 | 11:09 AM
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Sure. Just like they wouldn't order those planes if we voted down the last TA.
Management will make their decisions on basing, airplane orders, etc. We don't need to trip over ourselves to bail out their mismanagement.
Why are you always trying to convince us to accept worse work rules?
06-18-2016 | 12:03 PM
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Are you really saying that the company would put out an "AE everyone hates" just to spite us?
Sure. Just like they wouldn't order those planes if we voted down the last TA.
Management will make their decisions on basing, airplane orders, etc. We don't need to trip over ourselves to bail out their mismanagement.
Why are you always trying to convince us to accept worse work rules?
Sure. Just like they wouldn't order those planes if we voted down the last TA.
Management will make their decisions on basing, airplane orders, etc. We don't need to trip over ourselves to bail out their mismanagement.
Why are you always trying to convince us to accept worse work rules?
06-18-2016 | 12:21 PM
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If you think VB would be better work rules for the pilots all I can say is you're not the brightest bulb. I was surprised however to see in another post you acknowledge Delta's last contract was top of the industry. What was again surprising however was you seem to enjoy that UAL pilots might make more then our current contract this year. AMR will still be below us when you add in PS.
This one needs to be hit out of the park or we will sit on our apparently industry average compensation (when you add in PS)
We don't need a deal, we need an awesome deal. 3B4 will keep rates moving with our Delta peers while we ride the industry's transformation and Delta's sustainable profits.
We already have virtual basing. Add deadheads to the ends of a rotation and you can put a pilot anywhere in the system. Red herring to convince us to give up current QOL. Virtual basing in any form we would agree to, wouldn't save a dime.
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06-18-2016 | 12:40 PM
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You said you have no interest flying int'l, I voted no to support FO's. It's hot out here in the west, I don't need your flaming me today. Kidding, I've got a cocktail watching the Open. Almost 100 though.
06-18-2016 | 12:45 PM
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So what do you mean you voted no to support FOs?
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