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Old 07-24-2016 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
come on man, give us a hint.

Nah, I will wait to see how it develops. I don't have enough details to talk about it with certainty. What I'm hearing does make some sense. If you are going to do some sort of start up with world wide ops, you need big hours to drop insurance risk. The only way to get that is DEC from existing carriers. The party I have heard about has deep pockets, a need and the desire. We live in interesting times.
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Old 07-24-2016 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Nah, I will wait to see how it develops. I don't have enough details to talk about it with certainty. What I'm hearing does make some sense. If you are going to do some sort of start up with world wide ops, you need big hours to drop insurance risk. The only way to get that is DEC from existing carriers. The party I have heard about has deep pockets, a need and the desire. We live in interesting times.
Do they serve Lutefisk in first class?
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Old 07-24-2016 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Nah, I will wait to see how it develops. I don't have enough details to talk about it with certainty. What I'm hearing does make some sense. If you are going to do some sort of start up with world wide ops, you need big hours to drop insurance risk. The only way to get that is DEC from existing carriers. The party I have heard about has deep pockets, a need and the desire. We live in interesting times.
Pax or freight?
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Old 07-24-2016 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Nah, I will wait to see how it develops. I don't have enough details to talk about it with certainty. What I'm hearing does make some sense. If you are going to do some sort of start up with world wide ops, you need big hours to drop insurance risk. The only way to get that is DEC from existing carriers. The party I have heard about has deep pockets, a need and the desire. We live in interesting times.
Just like Maxjet, Eros, and the others that turned billionaires to millionaires. Oh, maybe it's Family Airlines or Baltic!
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Old 07-24-2016 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Nah, I will wait to see how it develops. I don't have enough details to talk about it with certainty. What I'm hearing does make some sense. If you are going to do some sort of start up with world wide ops, you need big hours to drop insurance risk. The only way to get that is DEC from existing carriers. The party I have heard about has deep pockets, a need and the desire. We live in interesting times.
One of the ME3 financing the startup of a US airline to provide TATL/TPAC service that ME3 are having difficulty getting approved for?
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Old 07-24-2016 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails
Pax or freight?
My guess based on his "world wide ops" statement is he's talking about Amazon's rumored cargo startup. Still seems like it'd be cheaper in the long run to just buy out UPS, but who knows.
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Old 07-24-2016 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SawF16
My guess based on his "world wide ops" statement is he's talking about Amazon's rumored cargo startup. Still seems like it'd be cheaper in the long run to just buy out UPS, but who knows.
They could buy AMR, DAL and UAL for less then the UPS market cap.
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Old 07-24-2016 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They could buy AMR, DAL and UAL for less then the UPS market cap.
Touche.

As always, thanks for the insight!
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Old 07-24-2016 | 02:14 PM
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Amazon has already contracted with ATSG (ABX/ATI) for 20 767s and Atlas for 20 additional 767s. Having already committed contracts to the ACMI/contractor route, there wouldn't be any need for Bezos to hire direct entry captains from Delta/United/American/etc. to start up a global cargo airline.
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Old 07-24-2016 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Amazon has already contracted with ATSG (ABX/ATI) for 20 767s and Atlas for 20 additional 767s. Having already committed contracts to the ACMI/contractor route, there wouldn't be any need for Bezos to hire direct entry captains from Delta/United/American/etc. to start up a global cargo airline.
Thats true if they don't want to grow rapidly to replace their reliance on FedEx and/or UPS. Any rapid growth at a new air carrier will require DEC's at some point. Again *if*. I have no inside scoop, just heard rumors, & for all I know they'll realize that its cheaper to just let UPS and FedEx perform their core competency at a large scale and just stick to stocking merchandise and stuffing it in boxes.
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