How about we counter with no change to PTIX, a public accounting of the calculation each quarter, and paid quarterly after each 10-Q filing. Not only management can tilt the table.

And our new 3B4 should be, when other employees get a raise , we get the same raise. No comparison, no time line.

"It's called negotiations."

Looking at the progress so far, I'd say one party is negotiating while the other is dictating things pretty well for themselves. And we're just waiting to see how much it will cost to get 'industry leading' pay for the 'world's best'.imo

A real negotiation would be refreshing.

Scoop, changes happen but what prevents them from changing it significantly in the future is the Delta Board of Directors, who approve executive compensation, and who answer to increasingly activist share holders.

If you think the BOD would block executives from taking their compensation out of our profit sharing (thereby increasing the companies bottom line), you've put your trust in the wrong people... Not surprising from you as your posts show you also put your trust in the Moakies and sell QOL for small pay increases crowd...."We didn't think they'd do THAT!!!" Heard it before...

Viking, I don't think the BOD would block executives from trying to remove their pay from the PTIX calculation. In fact that's exactly what they would like to do, but that's not what we are debating. We were debating whether or not executive pay is unlimited, which it is not.

Contrary to those who are simply making stuff up to create negative impressions of TA2, I'll stick to the facts. And when the time comes to vote on TA2, I'll judge it based on all the facts.

I'm sure you are just 'debating' exec. compensation... not messaging those among the 65% that voted 'NO' to TA1 because they 'misunderstood' "the facts" in TA1.

Yes, let's just debate exec. compensation because we have all had such vast experience on bod compensation committees, ignore this internal political farce. Appreciate your thinking of us.

It is unlimited if there is no limits written into in the PWA. Just as fuel hedge losses are now ordinary expenses and a one time write down of Venezuelian lost revenue is not a special expense but and ordinary one. They will find a way to widen any loophole, better to just prevent it.

idk about anybody else.....but 100 million a year is pretty much in the unlimited category in my reality.

And that's just 1 executive, the AIP includes all of them.

Not only executives but all Management personnel. All 2300+ of them.