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Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 2191142)
If they all achieved these raises with minimal or no concessions your argument for us making concessions would be what exactly?
Yes our proposed rates were similar but at what cost to the rest of the contract? So since there ARE gains and concessions, I think you have to know a lot about costing at each airline to evaluate the values of the respective TA's. Glancing at the highlights at SWA, I can't really figure out exactly what they did to their Section1. They say it's better, but don't we all? |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2191148)
I'm in no way vouching for TA1 which was rightfully turned down. This deal ended up right in the ballpark of the 16.5/3/3/3 offer. It kills any hope of 22/7/7.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2191148)
I'm in no way vouching for TA1 which was rightfully turned down. This deal ended up right in the ballpark of the 16.5/3/3/3 offer. It kills any hope of 22/7/7.
So you think we will be limited by Southwest? Delta no longer wants us to lead the industry? Scoop |
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 2191147)
you don't get to use profit sharing in the equation....the nmb doesnt.
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 2191139)
I don't think that is exactly true either. You'd have to deuct the value of the matching they were getting, which I ***think*** was 9.3%, so in 3 years they get 5.7% total.
How much is their PS, anyway? |
Originally Posted by Sink r8
(Post 2191153)
No airline out there did anything without concessions. If you're holding out for zero concessions, you're totally outside the envelope of what the industry is doing.
So since there ARE gains and concessions, I think you have to know a lot about costing at each airline to evaluate the values of the respective TA's. Glancing at the highlights at SWA, I can't really figure out exactly what they did to their Section1. They say it's better, but don't we all? If you read anything on these boards you know that what I have bolded above is 100% untrue and pretty much flame-bait. Nice job. Scoop |
"No seat on SWA board"... Bummer
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Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 2191160)
If you read anything on these boards you know that what I have bolded above is 100% untrue and pretty much flame-bait. Nice job.
What I put up is a statement of fact. Expecting zero concessions is outside the envelope of all recent contracts. I have been reading these boards, and every pilot group highlights their concessions better than you or I can. All of them have concessions to talk about. I suggest you re-read my post. |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 2191148)
I'm in no way vouching for TA1 which was rightfully turned down. This deal ended up right in the ballpark of the 16.5/3/3/3 offer. It kills any hope of 22/7/7.
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Originally Posted by kobaracing1
(Post 2191168)
"No seat on SWA board"... Bummer
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