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preach it OFG!!
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2193435)
The Fitness review board is a big improvement over what we now have. The real beauty of it is that you can't not get paid for a fatigue call unless the union agrees with it. If the 2/2 board deadlocks you're paid.
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Originally Posted by Vikz09
(Post 2193489)
Unless, one of the career ALPA shills is involved in the process. There are a few i would never want standing between me and a fatigue call...50/50 outcome at best!
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2193234)
Why must you commingle Profit sharing and pay rates? This is insane. Show your math. Best I come up with is $315/hr if you lump it all together. Sorry they are two different forms of compensation from two different sources, protecting both time and investment of the Delta pilots.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2193324)
The math is easy. Current rate 218.00. 16.5% now and 3% on I Jan. DC rate of 16% on 1 Jan. The original poster included those items. The comparison is us to SW so adding PS is valid since our program is better.
Delta Rate with DC on 1 Jan. 303 SWA rate with DC on 1 Jan. 278 I fully expect we will see a slightly higher rate in the final product and I expect to retain the pensionability aspect of the PS. I used the companies current table position as worst case numbers. I plan on the PS number being zero and that way I am pleasantly surprised when something other than $0 shows up on Valentine's Day. Pay rates are pay rates and profit sharing is profit sharing. The two are independent methods of compensation but only one is "certain." Emphasize and strengthen the "certain." 😊 |
well....we have it on expert economic authority black swans are imminent.....so its only prudent to set ps value at zero....and base our discussions entirely on tangible compensation.
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
(Post 2193544)
Why do we willingly discuss PS as part of a pay increase in this TA??? We paid for PS in lieu of payrates many years ago. It should be completely left out of the discussion and only be negotiated separate of rates.
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2012?.....how about to 2005?!:D
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SWA scope. All Delta regional flying returned to mainline. 5000 pilots. No JV. We do all our international flying.
No PBS. 15% more pilots. 2000 additional pilots. Not saying we should drop PBS, just comparing apples to apples. SWA has no PBS. Trips touching vacation at SWA. More than double our vacation. 2000 more pilots. :54 minutes TFP. 800 more Delta pilots. 6.5 TFP for training day and reserve day. 1200 more Delta pilots. At least 3500 more Delta captains if we had the SWA aip. Imagine your domestic quality of life if we had 3 day trips worth 22 hours vs our 15:45. |
Originally Posted by gzsg
(Post 2193672)
SWA scope. All Delta regional flying returned to mainline. 5000 pilots. No JV. We do all our international flying.
No PBS. 15% more pilots. 2000 additional pilots. Not saying we should drop PBS, just comparing apples to apples. SWA has no PBS. Trips touching vacation at SWA. More than double our vacation. 2000 more pilots. :54 minutes TFP. 800 more Delta pilots. 6.5 TFP for training day and reserve day. 1200 more Delta pilots. At least 3500 more Delta captains if we had the SWA aip. Imagine your domestic quality of life if we had 3 day trips worth 22 hours vs our 15:45. |
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