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JamesBond 08-31-2016 08:31 AM
Originally Posted by Tanker1497 (Post 2192387)
It did not get support by polling and wasn't directed for MEC to negotiate. If the company asked for it, I never read about it. Dalpa MEC site, contract faq's, section 3.
Well hopefully in future contracts the younger guys coming on board will realize how stupid the current pay scheme is and get it changed.

Tanker1497 08-31-2016 08:36 AM
You'd think with the future increase in training events, the company will bring it up next time around.

gzsg 08-31-2016 08:44 AM
Originally Posted by NERD (Post 2191934)
Wait. How can this be? I thought we were being parked, iced, slapped! Arbitration, followed by a PEB!!!!!!!!!
The Southwest pilots will never get a deal after they called for their CEO to step down.

Oh wait.....

sailingfun 08-31-2016 08:47 AM
Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2192408)
The Southwest pilots will never get a deal after they called for their CEO to step down.

Oh wait.....
They did not get anywhere near the deal you assured us they would get.

gzsg 08-31-2016 08:50 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2192411)
They did not get anywhere near the deal you assured us they would get.
Again if we accepted their agreement in whole we would need over 8000 more pilots and average 4 days more off per month domestic and have a higher w-2.

JamesBond 08-31-2016 09:00 AM
Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2192415)
Again if we accepted their agreement in whole we would need over 8000 more pilots and average 4 days more off per month domestic and have a higher w-2.
Show your work Mr Minister.

You are so full of it.

Gunfighter 08-31-2016 09:57 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2191996)
The negotiating committee was given some latitude to meet the company part way. The NMB appears to feel it might lead to a agreement.
Given latitude by who? 65% of us give no latitude with respect to a concessionary contract. We expect gains in scope, vacation, sick leave and training, not trades for pay rates. When those negotiating on both sides finally figure out it is about 28 sections of the contract, not just a few tables in section 3, we will get somewhere. Until then it's just moving the deck chairs around.

sailingfun 08-31-2016 10:14 AM
Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2192453)
Given latitude by who? 65% of us give no latitude with respect to a concessionary contract. We expect gains in scope, vacation, sick leave and training, not trades for pay rates. When those negotiating on both sides finally figure out it is about 28 sections of the contract, not just a few tables in section 3, we will get somewhere. Until then it's just moving the deck chairs around.
The 12 crafted and dictated the direction to the NC.

bluejuice71 08-31-2016 10:25 AM
Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2192415)
Again if we accepted their agreement in whole we would need over 8000 more pilots and average 4 days more off per month domestic and have a higher w-2.
Basically you can discredit anything gzsg says. I don't think one of his predictions has come true. How about the company coming crawling back to us within 48 hours after we turned down the TA? Or how about this gem made a few weeks ago when he stated we would have a deal soon because SWA is going to get $300 an hour for the 737. Yeah right.

BobZ 08-31-2016 10:36 AM
Well..... using the math some have..... if you add the 401/dc money its close:D


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