If Jerry has his way, it will be spring of 2020.

Id rather do nothing, let everyone blow past us in pay, QOL and benefits while we sit back, enjoy what work rules still remain and collect PS checks ever Feb. At some point management will need a carrot for those newhires up in NYC flying every day of reserve. Furthermore, they are jammed up with JV/CS unless we change metric and those MRJ's Skywest bought will look great sitting out in Kingman, AZ.

Wind the watch and wait. 800 retirements around the corner and the other carriers are there now.

IMO this will be done in September.

Management needs our concessions.

And the surrender monkeys are out in force.

Furthermore, I am pretty sure our merger TA and C12 did not lead AAL's pre-BK contract, scope, A-fund, B-fund, number of wide bodies, etc. How did that contract look compared to SWA? Fedex? UPS?

Merger:
Continuation of the Alaska debacle that set back our LAX plans at least a decade (2008 to 2016-2018 for the new terminals). Combination of both regional programs into the monster DCI became before they couldn't staff it

C12:
ALV+15 for reserves
Significant increase in 76-seat jets at DCI
Reduction in PS
And thanks to side letters, drastic reduction in the floor of Pacific flying

Other than payrates at CAL and UAL, how exactly did we lead? How come our fresh captains are up in NYC and at UAL they are f-CAL 737 captains at LAX?

I strongly disagree that we led... Maybe in some small areas, but not areas that last one's career.

Right Jerry. right.

I guess I'm more confused than an Amish electrician. I thought "the 12" took over the MEC Special meeting by caucus in order to direct the NC to carry forward outrageous demands for the Aug 26th NMB-directed meeting after our "time out." Or so it seemed after reading Buzz's rather hypocritical letter to his Council. Based on Buzz's and Sam's letters, I would have inferred "the 12" were aligned more closely with Jerry's perspective than Buzz's but yet this post appears. To quote James Bond...Dubya-Tee-Eff?

If "the 12" hijacked the MEC Special Meeting and were directing demands and positions that Buzz and Sam felt would ice us for months, how are we able to sit back down at the dinner table with the company and the NMB?

It is truly "bizzaro world" when Buzz is saying the 12 were unrealistically demanding too much but Jerry is saying the 12 are "surrender monkeys." I really need a bigger bucket of popcorn for this show...

The difference is that Jerry wants the MEC to fail.

I do not believe that is correct. It appears that he does not want them to sell us out, like your bunch tried to last year, but fail, no.

Not my bunch, sport. Jerry has an agenda though. If you don't see it, it is only because you don't want to.

Could somebody please post where SD said that every single part of the contract would be industry leading. I would love to see this. I wish it were true. I think what he said was that we would have it industry-leading contract, not that every section of the contract would be industry-leading. Maybe I'm getting lost in semantics.