The short jet?? Is that like the short bus??

"My name is 80ktsclamp, my favorite color is clear, and today I took da big jet to work!!! Have you seen my helmet??"

:):D

Yes they have been short on the short bus! :D

Raw score of 100 by the 18th, haven't had a long call day in 2 months either. W T F, over!!!! And, I have NEVER broken guarantee....

What category?

Ditto for me on the 73 in LA. Since May, I've been in the 140 -160 raw zone. Never broken guarantee.

Only flew two 3 day trips this month and I'm not back on reserve till Sept. I'm a slacker atl maddog guy.:D

Hoser, it is because of all of those guys that finally got line picking up some horrible trips via white slips. They are drunk with the opportunity. :D

That's for sure!! I bid reserve to get weekends off. Lots of soccer games for my munchkin. The junior folks all got 65 hour lines next month. I'm hoping to not work and get paid 70!! (-:

Broke RAW 100 by the 12th, and then just couple SC for the rest of the month. It's actually not a bad month.

That is off season flying for ya. I averaged about six days a month last fall. Hope it continues this year. I love being at home for eight months a year.

Hey, I broke 75 one month. Memphis DC9B.

Raw Score that is.

Last fall on the DC9 I was doing that.......then I came back to the 320. Now it's fly this and DH that, and short call this and cover that. What's that, you needs 24 hours rest? No prob, here's a 24 hour SJC layover before you redeye back to ATL for a 12 hour layover, then a ATL-DTW leg. No you can't sit long call at home, we need you to DH to ATL so you can fly to SAV, overnight, then DH SAV-ATL-DTW.

But ya know what? I wouldn't trade it, because I love my job. Could things be improved? Sure, but we have a good thing going here with this merger and I hope the good times continue. :)

My buddy at AS, based in LA, gets 88+ hours a month. Seriously. Not sure why you can't break guarantee.

When a reserve pilot flies a trip, don't they get credit for less than a blockholder for many of their trips? Especially, if they deadhead or have short overnights, right?

I looked at a 2 day trip that was worth 10:30 for a REGular but only 4:30'ish for a REServe.

Maybe that has something to do with it.

Uhh, because he's at AS and I'm at DAL? And our schedulers are masters at taking us right to 70 hours and no more? Just a thought. Maybe when we buy AS I can be like your buddy.;)

That's exactly it New. Two guys flying the same trip, one reg, on res, get different credit. That's one of the problems with our reserve system. And I'm new to it. When I got pushed down from reg to res it was a huge pay cut.

Or, maybe you're just doing it wrong, buzz. I mean if an Alaska guy can get 88 hours on reserve, you should be able to figure out how to do it too.

I mean, being on reserve is all about total control of how much, when, and when you fly, right? :D

It was until the invention of RAW. It has a leveling effect that only allows a few guys to hit ALV in the busiest months.

One of the other issues in LA New is that its such a small base that there's not a lot of open time or ability to yellow or green slip. Even if the schedulers commit you for every available day through either a trip or a short call, there's really little flexibility to grab anything else.

Hopefully, LA will grow at some point. But in my time here its been very static.

I think it's because the flying that Buzz used to use to break 70 hours is now done by Alaska. :mad:

I have 5.5 hours to go until I hit the ALV. RAW score 160. And they put me on short call again tomorrow??? What the...

That seems right on par with our schedulers. ;)

And yet I've only flown 40 hours this month, with only a few days left. Guess the RAW system works...:rolleyes: It's all these red eyes to the west coast and back for me.

I flew 3 years of reserve @ AS and never broke 60. Usually was gone 6-7 DAYS for the month totaling 25-40 hrs. Their short call res pays 79 hours. Was a GREAT deal! They are now very short staffed as they have been all Summer, but most guys are not getting close to guarantee.

How is your typical month on res in LA on the NG?

Baja.

What is the RAW score stuff you guys are talking about? I was trying to read all the latest posts and its like jibberish to me. Can you please explain this to a soon to be Delta reserve? :) Thanks

Basically it is some complicated formula they assign to every hr of credit or flight that equals out who works and who does not. It is in section 23 of the PWA. In lay mans' terms, it is about two credit points for each hr of credit/flight.

Basically the more you work, the higher your RAW gets. RAW is one of the factors used to assign open time to reserves.

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New Hire here, starting in the Sep. 20th class and I have a few questions. If you are based in NYC how much flying do you do at each airport? Do certain aircraft types do more flying out of JFK than LGA? I would be a commuter just wondering how people handle getting back and forth from all the airports to their crash pads. Thanks

I'm on the 7ER (757/767 international), based in NYC. In 2.5 years of being based there with both a line and on reserve, I've done 1 trip out of LGA, none out of EWR, the rest being out of JFK. I'm very junior on the airplane.

My crashpad is near JFK, so I've lucked out. Others will probably correct me, but from what I've seen the M88 folks seem to have more LGA than anything, but some JFK as well. Not much EWR either. The 737 seems to be almost all JFK, maybe a bit of LGA, not much EWR either.

There are inexpensive cab companies and shuttles than go between the airports, so that's not too bad. It seems like most M88 pilots have crashpads closer to LGA, so it's easier to get there.

I'm not NYC based but it appears to me that the M88 flies mostly out of LGA. Trips can start out of JFK & EWR, but most start out of LGA. Basically everything but the 777/747/330 flies in and out of LGA, & everything flies out of JFK/EWR.

When NYC based on reserve you cover all three airports, but able to name one as your primary base(say LGA), so if called to another airport(JFK/EWR) you will be allowed more time to get to it. I think people based out there will pool together for transportation. I'm sure someone will chime in with more detailed info.

Congrats and Welcome Delta. :)

Thanks for the info. One more question, I understand that on reserve there is a mix of long and short call how does that work?

Every reserve day is long call(12 hours min notice) and you can be converted to short call 6 times a month.

My experience thus far has been Day 1 of reserve I get a trip or short call. Once I'm in base they usually find something for me to do. My experience on reserve has been a busy one, but I'm on the 320 and we are short staffed which is why it's going to newhires. We need more people on it. The opposite extreme is the ATL M88 category or MSP M88 category. Those reserve guys have been sitting on their thumbs doing squat so experiences will vary, but it is possible to sit around on long call reserve and work very little. Guys on ATL 767 were working about 6 days a month last year.

NYC Travel Between JFK, LGA, EWR
 

Here is a list of useful numbers and commuting options I've compiled over the last three years as a 7ER commuter.

LGA - JFK, also convenient for Kew Gardens Crash Pads
Q Runner $11 (718) 846-4900
Kew Gardens Taxi $18.50 (718) 846-6666

EWR to JFK (The first two are best. The train combo is a hassle with luggage)

EWR JFK bus $15 in uniform, $27 w/ID no uniform, $30 others 800-427-3207
or
Olympic Airporter $24
(609) 587-6600 or 800-822-9797 or 800-385-4000
6:00 AM to 4:00 PM 75 - 90 minutes
or
Bus to NY Penn Station
LIRR to Jamaica Station
AirTrain JFK to terminals.
or
AirTrain Newark then NJ Transit or Amtrak to 34th St/NY Penn Station.
NYC Subway A Train to Howard Beach or LIRR to Jamaica Station
AirTrain JFK to terminals.


www.nyairportservice.com
NY Airport Service Express Bus $13 (718) 875-8200
7:30 AM to 8:00 PM Every 30 minutes takes 45 minutes
LGA-JFK and Manhattan

ISP to JFK
Shuttle to LIRR $5
LIRR (Ronkonkoma to Jamaica Station) $7.25
516-822-5487
Air Train to JFK

Johnso how do you like the A320? I just got off active duty AF (C-21s then C-5s) and was looking at our choices A320, MD-88, DC-9. I have buddies that flew the Med-Evac C-9s so I know all about it. I'm inclined to put the A320 at the top.

cni,

Having flown the DC9 and A320, I would definitely put the Airbus at the top of the list. IMO, simple to fly with a very good FMS. DC9, easy to fly but labor intensive, no FMS, basic autopilot but remember, you're vector equipped. Didn't fly the Maddog but it looks pretty good when compared with the DC9 (numerous jumpseat observations).

Welcome aboard.

Jinks

I enjoy the 320. I've flown the DC9 & 320 here, & I enjoyed both but the 320 is more enjoyable IMO. Much larger variety of flying, & you'll be on reserve on either fleet. The DC9 fleet is shrinking so I don't think you'll hold a line any quicker on it. If you want to hold a regular line the M88 is the quickest road.

Welcome to Delta. :)

THis question is for too tall

When did you interview and when did you get your letter and phone call. i am hoping for the sept 20th class but I am afraid it will fill up before i get my letter. did they give you any indication of how full the class is
thanks

I'm on the ER in NYC as well and hired about the same time as iaflyer. Like him most of my flying has been out of JFK but I've done several trips from EWR and a few from LGA.

I drive in so I don't have a crash pad. EWR is a lot closer for me and the others that live this way. The trips from there are popular with the guys living in NJ, PA and DE so when I had a line I couldn't get them. Now I'm on reserve and see a lot of Africa and Guyana :( I just got back from another trip to Georgetown and I'm hoping that the mosquitoes that made all these bites on me didn't have malaria.

Welcome aboard!

What a fun life we lead huh Razor? :eek: