Would You?
09-12-2016 | 04:38 PM
#61
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09-12-2016 | 04:42 PM
#62
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This mindset is changing within a large number of senior pilots. They have been crapped on by senior guys for a good part of their careers but many are fed up with this concept and are simply not going to accept it this time around. There is no better time to break the circle then the present and many are displaying an extreme level of integrity.
I applaud their sacrifice and in return I will not sell out the junior folks for the duration of my career.
How many years do you have left D Mantooth? Just curious because my calculator and math don't seem to work the same as yours.
09-12-2016 | 04:51 PM
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I think the point most people are trying to make is that pay rates are going to be the same across UAL, AA, DL etc. within a few percent always. If we throw profit sharing into pay rates now next contract they'll look at us and completely forget we gave up profit sharing and compare our rates to our so called peers. You don't agree? For example are we now allowed much higher pay rates than UAL because we rolled profit sharing into pay in 2012? You may say they patterned of our rates, which included 2012 profit sharing rolled in, to get their current rates. That's possible but AA hasn't had profit sharing until recently but has relatively the same pay rates as we do.
Has your compensation improved more over the last 3 years by 3% cola bumps or % gains in profit sharing? How about this year?
09-12-2016 | 04:52 PM
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Got this off Chit Chat. This is funny
"I sure hope they show up for picketing in a visible gesture of support for the adopted MEC strategy.
Surely with all the emails and phone calls of support -- the MC/MEC/LECs claim exist -- they ought to be able to contact them quickly and easily fill the picketing lines to capacity.
Maybe they'll even carry signs:
"I ❤️ VEBA"
"No base like a virtual base"
"Sick Leave is for criminals"
"More power to the schedulers"
"MGT has needs too!"
Good luck from the inconsequential vocal/active minority!"
RH
"I sure hope they show up for picketing in a visible gesture of support for the adopted MEC strategy.
Surely with all the emails and phone calls of support -- the MC/MEC/LECs claim exist -- they ought to be able to contact them quickly and easily fill the picketing lines to capacity.
Maybe they'll even carry signs:
"I ❤️ VEBA"
"No base like a virtual base"
"Sick Leave is for criminals"
"More power to the schedulers"
"MGT has needs too!"
Good luck from the inconsequential vocal/active minority!"
RH
09-12-2016 | 05:08 PM
#66
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Right on cue, MR Selfish in the flesh.
No stud. I have my pushbutton issues as well. And my pushbutton issues are ones that will keep YOU from being screwed. But you don't GAS about that do you? You aren't even remotely interested in compromise. It's your way or the highway. I am not that selfish.
No stud. I have my pushbutton issues as well. And my pushbutton issues are ones that will keep YOU from being screwed. But you don't GAS about that do you? You aren't even remotely interested in compromise. It's your way or the highway. I am not that selfish.
09-12-2016 | 05:33 PM
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Not picking on you. Your post just happened to be the most recent with this theme.
What if the survey indicated we want money over all else? What if the "QOL" items aren't as important to us as the compensation items?
What if the survey indicated we want money over all else? What if the "QOL" items aren't as important to us as the compensation items?
09-12-2016 | 05:49 PM
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It will always be a "what if," because the mere peasants don't get to see the polling info.
09-12-2016 | 06:06 PM
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I think the point most people are trying to make is that pay rates are going to be the same across UAL, AA, DL etc. within a few percent always. If we throw profit sharing into pay rates now next contract they'll look at us and completely forget we gave up profit sharing and compare our rates to our so called peers. You don't agree? For example are we now allowed much higher pay rates than UAL because we rolled profit sharing into pay in 2012? You may say they patterned of our rates, which included 2012 profit sharing rolled in, to get their current rates. That's possible but AA hasn't had profit sharing until recently but has relatively the same pay rates as we do.
