Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2201127)

Of course I'm selfish, I've already admitted that in past comments. But so are you so stop calling everyone else selfish. It's hypocritical. Just like when you blithely told someone they should have planned better for their retirement, and are now *****ing about getting more money for your retirement. What exactly do you find confusing about that?

Originally Posted by Moondog (Post 2201059)

They just don't get it. We won't sell our QOL for a few bucks.

Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 2201196)

So, you guys would all trade pay rates for profit sharing. Good to know.

Validates my thoughts about many of the posters on this board.

Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 2201196)

So, you guys would all trade pay rates for profit sharing. Good to know.

Validates my thoughts about many of the posters on this board.

Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 2200784)

If management came to you tomorrow and asked if you wanted to take $10 an hour of a pay rate and convert it into an equivalent profit-sharing percentage, what would you say? Unless you were insane, you'd tell them to pound sand. The pay rate is far more secure and is delivered every two weeks.

So why is there such outcry when I support doing the opposite?

And, to be very clear, I do not support "trading" it for higher pay. Get the best rates we possibly can, and then (only then) try to convert some defined PS percentage into a higher pay rate on top of what was negotiated, leaving the upper end of PS intact so we can share in the bounty if Delta continues to prosper.

To be clear, I know that this is a moot point. PS is somehow a sacred cow now, even though DALPA was ridiculed when they negotiated it.

Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2201165)

I agree. Calling other Pilots selfish because they have different priorities is a losing argument all around. Stick to the facts and lets not make assumptions (usually wrong) about other Pilots motivations.

Scoop :)

Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 2200965)

I don't even know where to start on this. Good Lord.

You must have not gone to the same college Tom Brielmann didn't go to.

It's not gone, it's in our pockets. And we would bargain off those rates in the next contract.

Forget it. Math and risk analysis is obviously hard.

You guys should consider converting all of our pay to profit sharing.

Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2201356)

So I suppose you see that the shoe fits both feet and will acknowledge that as well? Or does it not apply since his opinion is in lockstep with yours?

Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2201400)

I took his comment as a reproach of us both. But if you want to make it all about you........what do they call that again?