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09-16-2016 | 05:04 PM

#11

Karnak

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Originally Posted by gzsg

I asked John Malone to run. No one supported him more than I did.

He had no plan and now we are in a boxed canyon with no way out.

We will make severe scope concessions and go lower on hourly rates and vacation.

Why is ALPA ignoring the line pilots again? Because they can.

There is no excuse on earth for this colossal failure in this environment.

Bastian is returning $4 Billion annually to the shareholders and we are making concessions.

You can whine and cry and jump up and down. That wont change the facts.

So the best strategy is to ignore the "Get Serious" effort?

Address the issue on this thread. Should we follow DPA's guidance, and not support "Get Serious"? What are YOU doing?

09-16-2016 | 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

Every time I see a guy with a DPA bag tag, I just shake my head.

You shake your head at guys that don't want to give up concessions until we restore what we had when Delta was making FAR less money?

I shake my head at guys like you.

09-16-2016 | 05:44 PM

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gzsg

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Originally Posted by Karnak

So the best strategy is to ignore the "Get Serious" effort?

Address the issue on this thread. Should we follow DPA's guidance, and not support "Get Serious"? What are YOU doing?

I sent in my get serious email immediately. skipped a 3 day green slip to picket (it was picked up by a flight pay loss regular, i kid you not) I will always vote yes to strike.

We need to hold the line right here and stop negotiating with ourselves.

I think Captain Malone believed Bastian would negotiate in good faith after the aips. Sadly he did not yet again.

We have no choice but to take a strike vote. This will generate great media for us. Then request release. Again great media.

And if no progress is made, a vote of no confidence in Bastian.

I know this makes the company men cry. But it is justified.

After numerous carriers had brand damaging computer failures, Bastian choose to buy back stock instead of investing in our air line and protecting our brand.

Bastian is also turning his back on the Delta pilots after we have made well over $10 Billion in concessions. By far the largest contributor to the success and profitability Delta enjoys today.

We didn't choose this fight. I didn't. the 12 didn't.

Bastian did. He has zero respect for us.

09-16-2016 | 05:48 PM

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Seaslap8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 404yxl

You shake your head at guys that don't want to give up concessions until we restore what we had when Delta was making FAR less money?

I shake my head at guys like you.

I shake my head at guys like you shaking your head at guys like piasano...because he makes sense.

09-16-2016 | 05:50 PM

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Seaslap8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gzsg

I asked John Malone to run. No one supported him more than I did.

He had no plan and now we are in a boxed canyon with no way out.

We will make severe scope concessions and go lower on hourly rates and vacation.

Why is ALPA ignoring the line pilots again? Because they can.

There is no excuse on earth for this colossal failure in this environment.

Bastian is returning $4 Billion annually to the shareholders and we are making concessions.

You can whine and cry and jump up and down. That wont change the facts.

We will make "severe concessions"?.....are you paying attention at all?

09-16-2016 | 06:15 PM

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Elliot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

Every time I see a guy with a DPA bag tag, I just shake my head.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 404yxl

You shake your head at guys that don't want to give up concessions until we restore what we had when Delta was making FAR less money?

I shake my head at guys like you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seaslap8

I shake my head at guys like you shaking your head at guys like piasano...because he makes sense.

I've flown with GogglesPisano, I shake my head too...

Oh wait...

09-16-2016 | 06:19 PM

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404yxl

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Originally Posted by Seaslap8

I shake my head at guys like you shaking your head at guys like piasano...because he makes sense.

So you shake your head at people that think you deserve more than you currently make.

Think about that.

09-16-2016 | 06:35 PM

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Cogf16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gzsg

If we had 7000 current DPA cards we would have no concessions. And Canoll would be fighting for us.

This would be so much worse without DPA.

We are getting our butts kicked and we are going to go lower.

In the end we will be begging for a single.

What a waste.

If you say so. What is the strategy to get such a contract, just say NO REALLY LOUDLY??? Nevermind, I just read your strategy.

Strike vote
No confidence vote.
.......
Get parked for multiple years and wait for an economic downturn or 9/11 event..... Or DPA getting voted in!!!!!

09-16-2016 | 06:36 PM

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GogglesPisano

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 404yxl

You shake your head at guys that don't want to give up concessions until we restore what we had when Delta was making FAR less money?

I shake my head at guys like you.

I shake my head at the the thought that there are guys out there who actually think the DPA has a chance, that sew disunity, and who are actively (or through sheer ignorance) working against the interests of Delta pilots.