View Poll Results: Would you vote to ratify the hypothetical TA?
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09-28-2016, 01:08 PM
#352
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: retired 767(dl)
Posts: 5,730
Originally Posted by tomgoodman
09-28-2016, 03:04 PM
#354
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by sailingfun
What version of the DC8 in a all economy class configuration seated close to 90 people? Even the smallest version seated 177 in a one class and the version Delta flew at the end could seat 269 in a one class config.
In case, if 325 DC-9 sized "RJ's" isn't enough, nothing is.
09-28-2016, 04:59 PM
#356
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Joined APC: May 2008
Position: VEOP Retired! 7ER A was last position
Posts: 978
Originally Posted by gloopy
We opened very reasonable and have come down WAY more than the company has come up, despite the fact that the rest of the industry has taken a huge leap since then. We've also AIP'd a gaggle of concessions and apparently haven't gotten much if anything for them. As bad as the "bargaining credit" methodology of selling out things for chits is, you'd at least think we'd be piling all those on top of a dominating pay proposal for something truly eye watering. But instead they take our concessions and stonewall us on pay and finally come up a percent, and we haven't even seen the potential mother of all concessions for the JV side of things.
They are making it really easy to say no at the MEC/NC level, and especially the MEMRAT level.
And if DC-9 sized RJ's is annoying or played out, DC-8 sized RJ's is almost as accurate, especially since we're not really talking about 76 seaters but more like 90 seaters.
They are making it really easy to say no at the MEC/NC level, and especially the MEMRAT level.
And if DC-9 sized RJ's is annoying or played out, DC-8 sized RJ's is almost as accurate, especially since we're not really talking about 76 seaters but more like 90 seaters.
09-28-2016, 05:02 PM
#357
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 534
Originally Posted by badflaps
Lee Mcbride gave my DC-9 F/O ck. ride in JAN. He said "Fly around a little bit, do some steep turns while I read my mail." They don't make 'em like that any more. He looked just like Smilin' Jack.
A grumpy old man with whom I drink, cuss, and complain about the world on occasion tells a story about doing practice go-arounds between Atlanta and Augusta. On the go-around the check airman would yank an engine back, necessitating what he calls the "cha-cha" maneuver. Said more than one DC-9 was rolled because the pilot flying did not perform the "cha-cha" correctly and the check airman was not quick enough either.
Can I call bull squeeze on that story?
This grumpy old man also introduced me to Smilin' Jack cartoons, so I knows whatchu talkin' 'bout.
09-28-2016, 06:26 PM
#358
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: retired 767(dl)
Posts: 5,730
Originally Posted by buckleyboy
badflaps,
A grumpy old man with whom I drink, cuss, and complain about the world on occasion tells a story about doing practice go-arounds between Atlanta and Augusta. On the go-around the check airman would yank an engine back, necessitating what he calls the "cha-cha" maneuver. Said more than one DC-9 was rolled because the pilot flying did not perform the "cha-cha" correctly and the check airman was not quick enough either.
Can I call bull squeeze on that story?
This grumpy old man also introduced me to Smilin' Jack cartoons, so I knows whatchu talkin' 'bout.
A grumpy old man with whom I drink, cuss, and complain about the world on occasion tells a story about doing practice go-arounds between Atlanta and Augusta. On the go-around the check airman would yank an engine back, necessitating what he calls the "cha-cha" maneuver. Said more than one DC-9 was rolled because the pilot flying did not perform the "cha-cha" correctly and the check airman was not quick enough either.
Can I call bull squeeze on that story?
This grumpy old man also introduced me to Smilin' Jack cartoons, so I knows whatchu talkin' 'bout.
09-28-2016, 06:44 PM
#359
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: Power top
Posts: 2,959
Originally Posted by Cogf16
I know we lost so much in BK and are still behind C2000, but we didn't open reasonably. Did we open 22/7/7 or was that our second proposal? I get where that would put us via a vis inflation etc, but 22/7/7 would have put us 10 or 15% above UAL. Also I understand our contract, other than a few things( 6th week of vacation) and.....is BETTER than UAL So how is that reasonable in the eyes of the company or the NMB?
