Good post BobZ!

On the scope notebook what I find interestingly absent is anything about interport flying by ChinaEastern, and SkyMark, and Korean Air....We used to have a hell of a lot of really big airplanes totally full out there, and it is very interesting how that has evaporated, and the usual shills keep saying "well the block hours are in compliance"....Smoke and mirrors.

Ha! That was unity at its finest and the reason we are here for sure but no thanks to the likes of you and the dpa few.

Load factor is a meaningless statistic when it comes to profitability. c'mon man, you know that.

That Intra-port stuff was from NWA, thus the call-sign club loves to poo-poo it. As long as they get their occasional good deal and back slap (all the while getting laughed at behind their back) these are the kinds of deals that will he had. Fricking guys couldn't find a better environment to deal in and still can't get better than industry average with concessions.

New JV scope is worthless and unenforceable.

If you have more than 5 years left, you better vote no.

Your career depends on it.

when did the ta15 blowback get redefined as 'unity'? did i miss something?

i do not recall that word ever being used regarding the ta you, and your clowns would ALREADY HAVE if not for the dissenters calling BS on the entire deal.

Since we fly roughly 1/2 of the JV EASKs, a 2% drop of the total is a 4% drop in DAL flying.

Talking points will be distributed to paid and unpaid volunteers. As Bagdad Bob would say, nothing to see here.

Just over a week ago Sink and Trip were arguing the benefits of giving DCI more RJs. Soon we'll hear about the benefit of giving Virgin America, KLM, and Air France a greater percentage of Atlantic flying.

OK admittedly just a first read. I still have questions for my reps. I like the improvements in control and fragmentation. I like that they are addressing the global threat of affiliates. I like the new language protecting the Delta brand. I like that there are no changes at DCI with regards to the number of large RJs, but I would have liked to have seen a better block hour ratio. The Air France, KLM, Alitalia JV seems like more of a wash. A slightly lower EASK limit, but a two year look back versus 3 and no cure period. I do like that they added a minimum international block hours. With more JVs on the horizon capturing more block hours across the globe as opposed to just across the Atlantic may prove important. Maybe I missed it, but I'd like to see what percentage of our international flying that represents. Overall I think our Section 1 is somewhat better than what we currently have due to improved fragmentation and control language, brand protection, and a minimum international block hour limit. My big disclaimer is that this is just a first look. I'm willing to listen to reasoned opinions both pro and con.