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hockeypilot44 10-09-2016 09:01 AM

Scope notepad out
 
Just read scope negotiator's notepad. Judge for yourself.

TED74 10-09-2016 09:20 AM

"Due to the ensuing decline in the European market, Delta elected to transfer that planned growth to other international theaters, putting them out of compliance with the AF/KLM/AZ JV agreement. While this resulted in a grievance that the Company settled with the Association for $30M, Delta’s total growth in international widebody flying during that period was essentially the same as it would have been had Delta complied with its agreement with us."

I'm not following this logic. If there was money to be made elsewhere around the globe and we shifted to increase market share and generate revenue, we should have been doing that IN ADDITION to the company's continued compliance with the contract. That activity would have resulted in more wide body jobs, and more hiring.

What am I missing?

Turbo1 10-09-2016 09:28 AM

.......not missing a thing my friend........

ODB2 10-09-2016 09:31 AM

Am I reading too much into it at the end of the first paragraph saying "when the membership ratification window opens," meaning it has already passed the MEC?

Hawaii50 10-09-2016 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 2219954)
.......not missing a thing my friend........

Amazing the lengths you and your group will go to grasp straws to try and further your agenda at the expense of your fellow pilots.

mikea72580 10-09-2016 09:51 AM

Anyone know the answer to these questions since they weren't included in the NN?

- How many jobs does the 2% concession in the TAJV cost us in the Atlantic theater?

- Since the US population is more than twice the other TAJV countries' population combined (322M/143M) one would think that the JV is flying US ticketed passengers by a margin of 2 to 1. The appropriate production balance would be around 33% Euro/66% US. What is the Company's rational for Delta pilots to fly less than half of the combined passengers, consisting primarily of Americans?

-If the new floor of block hours for TAJV is 650,000, what are we currently flying? If it 640,000 then that's a decent protection. If it's 600,000 or less, that's basically pointless.

Turbo1 10-09-2016 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 2219958)
Amazing the lengths you and your group will go to grasp straws to try and further your agenda at the expense of your fellow pilots.

I don't have a group, Homie.......It's amazing to me how blind you and your posse are to reality..........You are unable or unwilling to hold your weak willed negotiating entity accountable.

boog123 10-09-2016 10:32 AM

Looks like we really took it to them, almost embarrassed about how good we did.

Hawaii50 10-09-2016 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 2219987)
I don't have a group, Homie.......It's amazing to me how blind you and your posse are to reality..........You are unable or unwilling to hold your weak willed negotiating entity accountable.

It's pretty obvious you do. It's amazing it seems they came up with a decent TA with all your dpa attempts at sowing dis-unity. When the time for unity was paramount you and your group came through with the exact opposite. Pretty unforgivable really in the event we actually had to take this to the next level.

BobZ 10-09-2016 10:45 AM

if not for all the 'dis-unity'......you already would have had a ta, done and over.

and right about now, would be standing with your d**k in your hand......wondering how we got screwed over so badly.


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