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Old 10-29-2016 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
I'm not sure how 2 wrongs make a right. This is my last post here except for admin questions going forward. If anyone had integrity they would admit it right now. No quibbling, no deflecting. Like a real god damn pilot. The folks that raise issues get hammered without any consequences. It's a shame. Wether or not this problem gets solved here, I'm still gone. Hope the moderators find their integrity so as to continue the idea of freedom to exchange opinions without influence. This TA has even affected flying. I recently witnessed a 60 year old 7er captain say that voting no is equivalent to a scab, and then watched him continuously ***** at a young FO like a child that couldn't control himself. Whatever. It doesn't really matter anyway right? Cheers
The folks that raise issues get hammered without any consequences
Don't even know what this means. Pretty much everyone here gets hammered. The site does not tell people who or what to agree with.

Hope the moderators find their integrity so as to continue the idea of freedom to exchange opinions without influence.
Thanks, never lost my integrity. Who is influencing your ability to post whatever you want?

This TA has even affected flying. I recently witnessed a 60 year old 7er captain say that voting no is equivalent to a scab
You are correct - this is not a perfect world. But what does this have to do with APC?

You are welcome to counter any argument on APC that you disagree with.

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Old 10-30-2016 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
I'm not sure how 2 wrongs make a right. This is my last post here except for admin questions going forward. If anyone had integrity they would admit it right now. No quibbling, no deflecting. Like a real god damn pilot. The folks that raise issues get hammered without any consequences. It's a shame. Wether or not this problem gets solved here, I'm still gone. Hope the moderators find their integrity so as to continue the idea of freedom to exchange opinions without influence. This TA has even affected flying. I recently witnessed a 60 year old 7er captain say that voting no is equivalent to a scab, and then watched him continuously ***** at a young FO like a child that couldn't control himself. Whatever. It doesn't really matter anyway right? Cheers
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Old 10-30-2016 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
I'm not sure how 2 wrongs make a right. This is my last post here except for admin questions going forward. If anyone had integrity they would admit it right now. No quibbling, no deflecting. Like a real god damn pilot. The folks that raise issues get hammered without any consequences. It's a shame. Wether or not this problem gets solved here, I'm still gone. Hope the moderators find their integrity so as to continue the idea of freedom to exchange opinions without influence. This TA has even affected flying. I recently witnessed a 60 year old 7er captain say that voting no is equivalent to a scab, and then watched him continuously ***** at a young FO like a child that couldn't control himself. Whatever. It doesn't really matter anyway right? Cheers
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Old 10-30-2016 | 05:10 AM
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As someone who was wrongly on the yes side for POS15, and on the yes side for TA2, there is definitely no bias here.

If anything the bias is schewed slightly to the No's based on C2012 passing when it was heavily not favored here.

What's the chit chat poll currently showing? If the APC poll is showing 70/30, I'm thinking this TA passes 80%+
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Old 10-30-2016 | 05:17 AM
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And did you call professional standards?



Originally Posted by deadseal
I'm not sure how 2 wrongs make a right. This is my last post here except for admin questions going forward. If anyone had integrity they would admit it right now. No quibbling, no deflecting. Like a real god damn pilot. The folks that raise issues get hammered without any consequences. It's a shame. Wether or not this problem gets solved here, I'm still gone. Hope the moderators find their integrity so as to continue the idea of freedom to exchange opinions without influence. This TA has even affected flying. I recently witnessed a 60 year old 7er captain say that voting no is equivalent to a scab, and then watched him continuously ***** at a young FO like a child that couldn't control himself. Whatever. It doesn't really matter anyway right? Cheers
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Old 10-30-2016 | 05:24 AM
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Egad. That was a bit clubfooted.

It's easy to get the impression that only the "opposition" gets hammered on APC. The truth is that everyone gets hammered, no mater which side is taken. This is the only venue where an actual debate ever happens, so I prefer it to FB and CC.

Aaaaaaaaand you should have called ProStan.
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Old 10-30-2016 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
The folks that raise issues get hammered without any consequences. It's a shame.
The lack of good manners on APC is indeed a shame, but such "hammering" does not (usually) violate the TOS, so expect it to continue.
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Old 10-30-2016 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
As someone who was wrongly on the yes side for POS15, and on the yes side for TA2, there is definitely no bias here.

If anything the bias is schewed slightly to the No's based on C2012 passing when it was heavily not favored here.

What's the chit chat poll currently showing? If the APC poll is showing 70/30, I'm thinking this TA passes 80%+
What was the polling for the last TA though?

It tanked almost 70/30 which no one would have ever believed was possible.
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Old 10-30-2016 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
What was the polling for the last TA though?

It tanked almost 70/30 which no one would have ever believed was possible.
TA2015 polled 13.74% for 86.26% against
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/de...a-ta-poll.html

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Old 10-30-2016 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
Someone explain how this is not flame bait. This site is biased plain and simple
This site is refreshingly balanced compared to the nonsense going on at Chit Chat (talk about a biased cult like echo chamber-good grief!)...APC posters were massively against the first TA, to a more lopsided degree than APC posters now appear to be in favor of this one...at CC, god help the poor soul who dares challenge the accepted doctrine.
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