So we just gained 650K GBH.

Wow, now is the time to bid wide-body captain. Never mind 4 month narrow-body captain. We are growing faster than the ME3!

 

What were the exemptions that allowed Delta to establish those JV and CS agreements?

 

I'm open-minded.
Just point me to the PWA reference of 688,000 that we supposedly lost.
I did a search for "688,000" in the old PWA. Couldn't find it.
(I did find "650,000" in the new one.)

 

What is the latest on the Avianca bid?

 

...so wiggle room lower on both the TAJV percentage and GBHs.

Just as I thought. Shucks, now I have to pull that wide-body captain bid. Get me all excited and leave me unsatisfied, nothing new. Oh well, at least we have profit sharing to cover that flying we're not doing. Let's see if they get the accounting right this time.

 

No, absolutely wrong.
Did you even read the contract?

TAJV required % went down. (It should be pointed out the TAJV measurement period was shortened in our favor too)

The GBH were established for the first time. There was no contractural lowering of GBH.

There is no "both" of lowering here.

 

Interesting that you would post this then get flippant when someone points out the fallacy of your comparison based the fact you are comparing actual/historical block hours (688,000) with a contractual guarantee (albeit a contingent one) which didn't exist prior to the December 1st ratification.

As for the first "new math" numbers, if you actually wanted to make a fair comparison, it should be "New math says 50% is 48.5%" because both were baselines, not 46.5% which would, in fact, be comparable to the previous PWA's 48.5%....the lowest average percentage the company could fly and still be in compliance.

And, if you really want to emphasize how bad it is (without keeping your comparisons parallel...to be consistent), you should have said "50% is 42.5%" (or even lower) because, under 1.P.4 the company only has to average 46.5% in the 2 year measuring period so, if we came out strong in the 1st year, say 50.5% (never would happen because, as you point out, Delta hates to fly organic international) but that would let them cut all the way back to 42.5% and still be in compliance. Of course, when they drop below 48.5%, that kicks in the 1.P.5 provision but I guess we had better protections under the previous PWA.

It certainly isn't perfect but it is better language with more protections. And, it just might become moot if/when Alitalia leaves the JV as is supposed to happen in 2017.

Happy Holidays...

 

Those junior to you thank you.

 

Ok, simple question? Did we increase the amount of flying required to be done by Delta pilots or decrease it? If the GBH floor is applicable then we have reduced our GBH by 38,000, no? 50% is an equal share, I agree we need some flexibility but none of this is enforceable.

My prediction: even 46.5% is not going to be upheld. If/when Delta sees a business case for further reduction we will surly grant it. My issue is not with the numbers themselves but with the trend line. There's more global instability to come, I think we test these new numbers before the amendable date. Once reduced will they increase later without significant negotiating capital? I don't see it.

 

We never had a floor limit. We also never had anything that said Delta couldn't throw 320's on a route across the Atlantic and apply those flight to the equation.