It was just a vote to have a vote today... the unionoids showed up and were clucking away. It'll be interesting how the actual council wide vote goes (very glad we have that).

 

It means it passed and there will now be a vote by all council 44 pilots.

 

The same would be true if it passed narrowly. So why the interest in the margin earlier, sailingfun? Would your curiosity be just as piqued had it passed by a single vote?

 

The entire process (aka C-44 clown show) is an embarrassment to all
Delta pilots. Nothing more than Chuck S. blocking Donald's picks. Wreaks of dirty politics and we look like a joke in front of Delta Mgmt.

 

One man's holy crusade is another man's clown show.

Now that TA2 is history, I don't think Jimmy or Chris really want to be reps. Their DPA is dying, no contract negotiations to grandstand over; maybe they'll spare us more "clown" and just resign. They don't want to do the work.

 

I guess you didn't get retro or a raise?

 

Seriously! What a bunch of whining babies. So self important, completely being played.

 

The recall votes for Chris and Jimmy? True sailing. The numbers were somewhere around 170 to 70 ish. After DavNes survived his recall vote, by about 35 votes out of 900...he went on to get destroyed in his bid to retain his position in the C44 vote. I'm pretty sure that CK and JJ will make out the same to retain their jobs in the council wide recall vote.

 

Other than occasionally reading this board I pay zero attention to ALPA politics. Fortunately having read this board, I know that anything the Moakies want is something I don't want. With zero knowledge of what these 2 FO's allegedly did, I'll vote to keep them. Thanks Obama.

 

Moakies? First, I think the odds of anybody getting elected on the Moak platform is near zero. Although there were some former Moak supporters at the meeting, there were also many former reps (several former North) and vounteers that were as far away from the Moak doctrine as you can get. I bring up the fact they were reps because until you have actually walked a mile in their shoes, it is hard to know what the job really entails.

Line pilots generally only judge a rep on how they may vote or what position they appear to take on a subject. The job is much more than that. The MEC isn't Congress, (how is their approval rating?) it is a board and behavior, process etc matter.

When you have former "anti Moak" North Reps that have ZERO political ambition supporting their recall, that should be enough to know that the recall has nothing to do with Moakism. If the shoe were on the other foot and these two were perceived as Moakies and based on their actions, social media would be in support of their recall just like it was last year for the previous reps.

It seems like anytime the perceived social media majority is in the minority on a position, it immediately labels the opposing side as Moakies (it certainly is not in this case), that the room is stacked with people from the Admin (again false as the Admin would be their supporters), that the average line pilot didn't know as "every guy I fly with says...." (Again BS, many, many communications have been put out to the pilots of 44.)

So maybe it just happens that line pilots who have a different opinion than the social media majority, actually took the time to bid off, go to a meeting and let their voices be heard without their being some conspiracy or personal agenda other than they don't feel like THEY are being represented? Naaaa it was all just a bunch of Moakies who want to be in power again... SMDH...

Please excuse typos and grammar as I am in a hurry.