That's me you're quoting. I have no morals and acknowledge same. I kid.

I think we can - no, must! - remove reps who can cause us harm. I see no harm being done to me or anyone else here by the MEC chairman vote except those who are denied a spot at the ALPA trough currently. Not all who drink from it are abusers, by the way. Just some. And many of those are the leaders of the C44 recall.

What's ironic is to watch the same folks who howled at the moon over 2015 recalls say how unfair it was and should only be used for crimes and fraud and other high crimes. Now, suddenly, the recall is appropriate any time anyone sees fit.

Suddenly, the holier than thou ones now think two wrongs do make a right.

At least they should own up to that.

I don't remember seeing a rep recalled over an election vote.

And I've never seen CA reps openly claim the FOs must vote the same as they do.

Interesting times ahead. This vote has way more consequences than most pilots know as to how this may change things for our union for a long, long time.

If chaos, more division and more recalls are desired for many months ahead go for it. Keep in mind, the end result will be no one ever willing to step into these roles again unless they're the chosen ones. Dats a fack.

 

Does it have to be harm? What if they're not doing their job?

There's been a lot of discussion on this site relating to our expectations for a good contract, and what we should do to get one. Is it possible there are differences about what our reps should be doing, and the methods they use?

You and I agree on accountability.

Is there any irony in someone who justified those recalls now calling these unfair? The precedent has been set with those recalls. Criticizing someone for doing something you did is hypocritical.

Maybe their logic is "We're just doing what those holier than thou ones did in 2015 when they didn't like what their reps did" Is that possible?

Me either. As I've written on this thread, I don't think it's a valid reason to recall a rep.

I read the message from the CA reps, and I didn't see anything that "openly claim(ed)" the other reps must vote as the CA reps do.

I wonder if that motivated the pilots who started the recall games in 2015. Maybe that decision by those pilots has led us to this situation.
Your prediction should have gotten more consideration that July.

It sounds like you're using "chosen ones" to disparage other pilots who disagree with you. My advice is to not take any action that they might copy in a year or two in response.

 

Correct, insofar as the CA reps' letter is concerned. I assume his point was the recall motions themselves--which indeed cited the FO reps' votes "against" the CA reps as a reason for recall.

Shameful.