Attrition
09-23-2017, 04:23 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by JTwift
Well, there was the failed “go home for a week” experiment that had pretty bad results.
09-23-2017, 05:00 PM
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Sad story. 121 training was about the easiest I have ever had in my life. But obviously, it is not for everyone.
Originally Posted by MIkeFavinger
In my class, despite all the complaining, everyone passed the indoc test during the go-home days. Gen-Subs was all in-house, instructor taught, and 6 people failed.
09-23-2017, 06:09 PM
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[QUOTE=MIkeFavinger;2435032]In my class, despite all the complaining, everyone passed the indoc test during the go-home days. Gen-Subs was all in-house, instructor taught, and 6 people failed.[/QUOTE]
6 out of the 18 new-hire class or a "normal" class of 30? Even if new to 121, 33% or 20% respectively... would be a high failure rate in my opinion, and maybe to the FAA as well.
6 out of the 18 new-hire class or a "normal" class of 30? Even if new to 121, 33% or 20% respectively... would be a high failure rate in my opinion, and maybe to the FAA as well.
09-23-2017, 06:16 PM
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[QUOTE=AU MD FLYER;2435084]
There is a 3 strike rule in training... you can fail 2 tests, the third fail sends you home. It’s a lot of info, but if you do the work book and have a study group - you shouldn’t have any problems. I don’t want to say 121 Training was the easiest training I ever did, because I studied my ass off, but I defiantly agree with highflight.
Originally Posted by MIkeFavinger
In my class, despite all the complaining, everyone passed the indoc test during the go-home days. Gen-Subs was all in-house, instructor taught, and 6 people failed.[/QUOTE]
6 out of the 18 new-hire class or a "normal" class of 30? Even if new to 121, 33% or 20% respectively... would be a high failure rate in my opinion, and maybe to the FAA as well.
6 out of the 18 new-hire class or a "normal" class of 30? Even if new to 121, 33% or 20% respectively... would be a high failure rate in my opinion, and maybe to the FAA as well.
09-24-2017, 04:48 AM
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[QUOTE=AU MD FLYER;2435084]
It was out of 33.
Originally Posted by MIkeFavinger
In my class, despite all the complaining, everyone passed the indoc test during the go-home days. Gen-Subs was all in-house, instructor taught, and 6 people failed.[/QUOTE]
6 out of the 18 new-hire class or a "normal" class of 30? Even if new to 121, 33% or 20% respectively... would be a high failure rate in my opinion, and maybe to the FAA as well.
6 out of the 18 new-hire class or a "normal" class of 30? Even if new to 121, 33% or 20% respectively... would be a high failure rate in my opinion, and maybe to the FAA as well.
09-24-2017, 07:02 AM
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Please do not misunderstand me. I said it was easy, didn't say I didn't apply myself. 
The instructors taught well, and cleared up any confusion that the class had.
As to the three strike rule, that must be new, because when I went thru, we had people sent home for failing the systems test once, and then the MV in the FTDs (which is not supposed to be a jeopardy event). Also had a guy in the class behind us fail the systems test twice, and packed his bags. Others lost their way in the sims, but I think they got a fair amount of extra sim time to try. Minus the guy with the systems test and FTD failure, I think all other failures were fair.
There is a 3 strike rule in training... you can fail 2 tests, the third fail sends you home. It’s a lot of info, but if you do the work book and have a study group - you shouldn’t have any problems. I don’t want to say 121 Training was the easiest training I ever did, because I studied my ass off, but I defiantly agree with highflight.
The instructors taught well, and cleared up any confusion that the class had.
As to the three strike rule, that must be new, because when I went thru, we had people sent home for failing the systems test once, and then the MV in the FTDs (which is not supposed to be a jeopardy event). Also had a guy in the class behind us fail the systems test twice, and packed his bags. Others lost their way in the sims, but I think they got a fair amount of extra sim time to try. Minus the guy with the systems test and FTD failure, I think all other failures were fair.
Originally Posted by web500sjc
There is a 3 strike rule in training... you can fail 2 tests, the third fail sends you home. It’s a lot of info, but if you do the work book and have a study group - you shouldn’t have any problems. I don’t want to say 121 Training was the easiest training I ever did, because I studied my ass off, but I defiantly agree with highflight.
09-30-2017, 12:33 PM
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September Attrition Update
29 pilots resigned with the effective date of their resignations occurring in September (this total does not include pilots who submitted their resignations after September 30, and whose last day is later than September 30 or new hire pilots who resign while in training). September resignations include 11 Captains (6 to DAL) and 18 First Officers (8 to DAL).
This brings the total number of resignations effective so far this year to 243 pilots (133 Captains and 110 First Officers), excluding pilots who resigned during new hire training.
29 pilots resigned with the effective date of their resignations occurring in September (this total does not include pilots who submitted their resignations after September 30, and whose last day is later than September 30 or new hire pilots who resign while in training). September resignations include 11 Captains (6 to DAL) and 18 First Officers (8 to DAL).
This brings the total number of resignations effective so far this year to 243 pilots (133 Captains and 110 First Officers), excluding pilots who resigned during new hire training.
09-30-2017, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JTwift
September Attrition Update
29 pilots resigned with the effective date of their resignations occurring in September (this total does not include pilots who submitted their resignations after September 30, and whose last day is later than September 30 or new hire pilots who resign while in training). September resignations include 11 Captains (6 to DAL) and 18 First Officers (8 to DAL).
This brings the total number of resignations effective so far this year to 243 pilots (133 Captains and 110 First Officers), excluding pilots who resigned during new hire training.
29 pilots resigned with the effective date of their resignations occurring in September (this total does not include pilots who submitted their resignations after September 30, and whose last day is later than September 30 or new hire pilots who resign while in training). September resignations include 11 Captains (6 to DAL) and 18 First Officers (8 to DAL).
This brings the total number of resignations effective so far this year to 243 pilots (133 Captains and 110 First Officers), excluding pilots who resigned during new hire training.
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